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No. 369491
>FUJOSHI (腐女子, "rotten girl"): a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men.
>Discuss yaoi and BL here, as well as other media aimed at (or with fanservice for) fujoshis.>Discussion of BL games here is okay, but please do not cannibalize the otome game general.>Discussion of Male/Male ships outside of strictly BL series is allowed, try to avoid divisiveness between slashers and classic fujos.>No straight shit, there are other threads for that. >Feel free to ask for recommendations, but specify what kind of material you're looking for (Genre, oneshot/series, doujinshi, SFW/NSFW etc).>Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter. >Be mindful of others and hide your spoilers. Use the spoiler image option and wrap your text inside spoiler tags.>Reminder to ignore the baiting males and trolls who come to provoke.>Keep the armchair psychology to a minimum, we've heard it all before.>Be nice to each other, we fujos should stick together.Previous threads:
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Fuck this thread pic I wanted Fujiyoshi…
No. 369521
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I'm playing subahibi and the homo blowjob scene got me super hyped up
No. 369523
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>>369505I don't think it has been. I think it was just posted in another thread, but it does look familiar.
>>369521Having to physically restrain myself from completely derailing to rant about Subahibi, but
by design and personality, Takuji was absolutely built to be the protagonist of a yaoi game, but somehow, he got trapped in a galge. Hope you enjoy the rest of it. It's one of my most favorite VNs of all time. No. 369531
>>369523>by design and personality, Takuji was absolutely built to be the protagonist of a yaoi gameIf he was he would 100% jack off more than every other yaoi protagonist combined.
>Hope you enjoy the rest of it.Right now it's at about a 9/10 for me, so hopefully it'll stay at that haha.
No. 369532
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Thoughts on Akagawa Sagan? I had extra cash this week so I bought two of her works because I thought her art style was nice, I bought pic related and Shikabane to Hanayome. Wanna just know if I made a bad financial decision kek
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>>369514promise you'll do it next time
No. 369573
>>369555I pinky promise if I get the chance
>>369556I've never played NTY or Slow Damage kek
No. 369587
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>>369567You didn't specify a medium, so you're getting mostly VNs and a few manga from me because that's what I know. I tried not to include too many titles because that can be annoying. Hopefully, some other anon can recommend something better kek.
-Hashihime of the Old Book Town: Excellent psychological/mystery VN with some interpersonal drama thrown in. It's tagged as horror on VNDB, but it's pretty light on horror. It's set in the 1920s; the protagonist (who is the best character) works at a used book store because he's a massive disappointment and got kicked out of his boarding house; he spends his days writing shitty fiction and annoying his friends. His friends start dying suddenly, and he's thrown into a situation where he has to figure out why it's happening. Sorry if this is a poor summary; I can assure you this is a great VN with well-written characters, an intriguing mystery, and lovely art. 30ish hours long.
-sweet pool: Body horror VN with a lot of cosmic horror elements. The protagonist begins to undergo physical changes he does not fully comprehend, and begins to doubt if he can even trust his own thoughts. The people around him seem to be losing their minds, and the protagonist is forced to contend with a horror far beyond his control. It's tagged as 'psychological horror,' so it may scratch that itch. 10ish hours long.
-Sakura Gari: Psychological/mystery manga set in the 1920s about a student who goes to live with a mysterious benefactor who's very obviously hiding something from him. There are a lot of twists and turns, and it's a decent length, but not long. It's more of a psychological drama with some mystery than horror. I loved the art and atmosphere, but that's subjective.
-Lkyt: Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but this VN does fall under the 'drama' category, and does have some horror elements (it's heavy on gore and focuses on an apocalyptic setting). The story centers around soldiers in a fantasy world tasked with fighting off a never-ending horde of demons, so the story has a pretty somber tone. I'm a fan of the art, especially the CGs. 20ish hours long.
-Hitori to Hitori no 3650nichi: I went pretty heavy on horror recommendations, so this one is just a regular drama with heavy psychological elements thrown into the mix. I like the art in this, although it's a short title. It's a collection of two short stories dealing with interpersonal drama; it's more grounded than the others on this list. It was a little too melodramatic for my taste, so I didn't love it, but it fits what you want.
No. 369589
>>369567twittering birds never fly, acid town,
nty, rn9 also good if you like your psychological horror extra horny
No. 369594
>>369587Oh my anon thank you for taking the time to write summaries too. I already know of sweet pool, lkyt and Sakura Gari, haven't played lkyt yet however. Your first vn suggestion sounds super interesting to me so I'll have to check it out!
And I know your last suggestion too but I also think it's a little too melodramatic and grounded.
>>369589Thank you too anon! Twittering birds never fly is and old one for me, nty and rn9 are some of my favourites but I'll have to check out Acid Town, I see it recommended often.
No. 369601
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>>369594highly recommend acid town, if you liked the other 3 it'll be right up your alley!
No. 369627
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>>369501Who can define popularity is my favorite college romance webtoon. It's a very funny narcissist x narcissist rivals to lovers story with both likable main characters and cool side characters who get just the right amount of screentime (so you care about them but they don't sidetrack the main romance).
No. 369631
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Recs for other manga with comically persistent/scary love interests like Jinsei Keikaku of the end? Doesn't matter if he's the uke or seme, as long as the tone isn't too heavy while he's almost delusionally persistent and the other guy either gets pathetically worn down by it or hates it while being scared of him. Another example of this that I like is Oh My God.
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>>369631I think the artist of your first example has a few more like that, have you read all her works already? Maybe you'd like A Blessing in Disguise or Drugless Sex 2 (focuses on a couple from the first one) by Enzou? The very first one I thought of was Spend Wisely by Niyama but that one turns very wholesome and mutual quickly. Two in Six Billion by Denzou might fit, but it has a more serious tone
No. 369665
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Tadaima, Okaeri got an anime and it's cracking me up how the crunchy synopsis never mentions that it's an omegaverse. This reads like it's a wholesome but real feel good story about a gay couple raising their child in Japanese society when in actuality the "prejudice" they're talking about is over the blonde one being an omega, kek
No. 369684
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>>369665It's not the first time Crunchy made their content appear more palatable.
No. 369716
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thread pic suggestion kek
No. 369719
>>369709There are so few sci-fi BL works. A shame because I love the genre, especially if it's the kind with vintage futuristic vibe.
Off the top of my head I can remember a oneshot from Azuma Kaya called Kuzureru Tenbin, Iimo's Perfect Planet, a oneshot called 2055 and Starfighter (this one's western). There's also Ai no Kusabi but that's old and idk if it fits.
No. 369771
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more threadpic material
No. 369774
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>>369771samefag, also this
No. 369820
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>>369808Selfhating fujos I guess?
No. 369892
>>369878Nyart but yes. However it's not done for fetishism or because it's cute, it's because it's a dystopian sci-fi story and I think it was inspired by Dune.
Moto Hagio is a cool woman who dabbles into absurd themes even in her shoujo manga. I always wanted to read stuff from her.
No. 369893
>>369808no these showed up in the front page and i thought these were hilarious, and i think we've been repeating our threadpics so i thought we needed new suggestions kek
>>369820also threadpic material
No. 369897
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>>369631How about Memeshii Aku To Azatoi Suh? It wasn't my thing but it sounds exactly like what you're describing.
No. 369908
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>>369631Tashiro-kun kimi te Yatsu wa is about a "creepy" guy who pushes and pushes until the uke has no choice but to give in. It's really funny since the author mainly writes comedies.
In Saiaku no Jinsei the MC is hopelessly in love but the other guy isn't into men at all. He agrees to date him in the end but he's still visibly hesitant for the most part.
No. 369915
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is Lkyt any good nonnas? I liked No Thank you and saw that the studio also came out with this, so I wanted to give it a go. Wanted to ask before dropping the $
No. 369916
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>>369894It's a fucked up and depressing sci-fi shoujo manga in a world (unsurprisingly) inspired by arab culture and where women seemingly went extinct. Maybe you could read it instead of assuming it's just mpreg in the future. Moto Hagio is not a random fujo writer doing kawaii mpreg stories but a sci-fi author envisioning a depressing world and using it as a tool to talk about humanity and gender, Marginal is one of her many works dealing with feminist themes and in it there's a lot about the envy males feel towards our womanhood and the power of conception. To be clear: the few genetically feminized males in the world of Marginal will never be women and it's one of the crux of this story.
Marginal is technically boy's love but it's more fitting for the general manga thread since its focus is not romance or teh smexy sex between male characters, but actual world building and implications on a world without women, with its own plot twists and all.
And Moto Hagio is a feminist writer who actually lived in the years where shoujo manga authors dared and experimented with feminist themes. She's one of the first sex-conscious mangaka and her work is reknown for it.
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>>369916>And Moto Hagio is a feminist writer who actually lived in the years where shoujo manga authors dared and experimented with feminist themes. She's one of the first sex-conscious mangaka and her work is reknown for it.I'm hesitant to call her a feminist after I read They Were Eleven.
No. 369922
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>>369915Go for it, nonna! I loved it, I played it after I saw it mentioned a thread or two ago. It's not as degen as their other games, but still their usual homo tragedy in a fresh setting with body horror and gore. Great plot, fights, and art, and mc a cute.
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>>369915if you like games with a seme main character, i really recommend it. tasuku is so cute, and some of the dynamics in the game are just top notch with sexy boys all around, kind of autistically-deep lore but it makes it an interesting read.
No. 369958
>>369956Yes nona, the human life expectancy of their offsprings is 30 years and their births are dwindling and this is a problem for them and that's how the story starts. There's also other damning aspects to this flawed dystopian society but it's spoiler territory.
Or are you telling us Marginal is just a lesser Yaoi High? You know, maybe it is. It doesn't have Minions and Osmosys Jones.
No. 369961
>>369959The thing is, Moto Hagio doesn't even have a fetish for mpreg like omegaverse writers or something. She has also written a lot of manga with female characters and themes of womanhood in them.
It's the wrong author to direct troon, omegaverse and femboy sperging at. It feels like online conversation just stops at these superficial comparisons to fetishes and memes whenever it comes to words that deal withe weird the surreal.
No. 369968
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Tag yourself
No. 369999
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>>369984The one that was at semeuke .com? It seems like the website is now defunct unfortunately.
No. 370001
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>>369999It seemed to be up in 2023, so I guess it closed pretty recently.
Gotta disagree on how they categoried the seme and uke relationships though, anything can work out with interesting writing.
No. 370069
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alright which one of you did this?
No. 370135
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Will this ever get ripped and translated?
No. 370550
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Cute
No. 370565
>>370444The very fact that a fucking fanfic trope originating from
overseas managing to seep its way into anime is just so
kek-worthy.
Waiting for my "the name of your soulmate appears on your arm" anime in the future.
No. 370568
>>370447Honestly, the anime industry should just give up on trying to shoehorn
shrug shrug wink wink natalist propaganda onto anime. It's cringe and will not motivate the people to fuck each other.
The birth rate didn't increase when
teenage pregnancy propaganda Darling in the Franxx was released. Or the McDonald's ad, or SPY × Family…
They should just focus on making stuff like discrimination against pregnant women entering the workforce be banned, fixing the insane work culture, teaching men how to do household chores so women aren't burdened by it—especially as the latter are in the workforce now. If not, Japanese women are going to keep their pussies shut indefinitely.
No. 370647
>>369890>making me crave more yaoi with complex plotlines. I'm so sick of the school, office, and other boring mundane settingssame but i don't think there's any way of getting these translated. for some odd reason all the girlies who know enough jp + have time to translate are all moralfaggots and don't want anything pwobamatic. i've seen good stories get dropped because "uhhh this is icky gross weird creepy and we have to stop srry"
meanwhile men get all the loli guri toddlercon they want
No. 370666
>>370568Silver lining, directing birthing propaganda to the side that
actually gives birth is a very slight step up, at least.
No. 370875
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I hate twitterfags. What the fuck is this
No. 370877
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>>370876Destiel beat spirk in the final poll
No. 370894
>>370875why no drarry? whenever twittertards likes it or not HP did define a whole generation. HP is how people got introduced to fandom, fanfiction and shipping. The books also came out in a time when the internet got more widespread and mainstream so I bet that many started using the internet with the purpose of seeking out the HP fandom. Drarry is one of the biggest HP ships and even a few normies knows about it
>>370877kek spirk is the granddaddies of yaoi ships so it's weird to see them lose. To be fair, while spirk did set the standard for slaahshipping in general, I do think destiel sat the standard for slashshipping in the age of internet. And destiel was huge to a point where it's synonymous with supernatural. Many people (including men) immediately think of destiel when someone brings up supernatural, regardless if they even shipped it. It was hard to escape destiel if you browsed any fandom-related sites while supernatural was at it's peak popularity. Plus the majority of supernatural fans where fujos even though they weren't the intended audience
No. 370897
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Thoughts on the latest drama?
No. 370909
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>>370906It's about being influential, and the slash genre was born thanks to star trek. Our grandmas were drawing and writing spirk yaoi in their basement and sharing it with their small group of fujo friends through niche magazines in the late 60s and 70s. It's honestly very interesting that, regardless of women in the 70s not having access to anime, they still managed to develop their own yaoi subculture. I wish these old magazines were better archived.
No. 370924
>>370909Based grannies.
Im pretty sure omegaverse was also curated from Star Trek or am I making that up? I could have sworn that was a thing. Or that it started in western fandoms somewhere and the east went nutso over it.
No. 370949
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>>370937For me, Reincarnated as a Slime.
I tried reading the manga years ago and didn't notice a thing so it was a real surprise to find out that there were yaoi ships.
No. 370956
>>370951Thinking about it, I think so? The manga was mostly just powerleveling, fighting, and political bs ngl so I never felt like he wasn't just some guy.
You can probably guess why I dropped it lol. So, so many meetings.
No. 370990
>>370987If you're one of the anons saying I'm imagining things about how satosugu is a little implied, please tell me you're joking. If not
the theme of the movie/JJK0 manga is love and there's an obvious parallel between Yuta and his dead/cursed gf and Gojo and Geto. Then Gojo says something about how love is the worst or most powerful curse, and at the end of the manga volume/movie Yuta defeats Geto who's injured, Goto finds him and before executing him (which he avoided doing for a decade on purpose) he says a short sentence that's not voiced and in the manga there's a somewhat empty speech bubble, it makes Geto blush and giggle like a school girl and he replies "at least curse me in the end" or some shit. The story is directly inspired by an actual BL manga that Gege liked but I haven!t finished this one because it was a bit boring.
No. 370992
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>>370938you say that like kaiji fujos aren't god's gift to humanity
No. 370997
>>370993Gege even confirmed in an a Q&A that gojo dates around with women or whatever which is more proof than anything delusional satosugu fans can provide.
As nonas said upthread, even sukufushi has more sexual tension in the whole manga
No. 370998
>>370995I know and I really don't mind it tbh. As I said I didn't start jjk for satosugu so it's fine if the story focuses on other things. I was curious about the manga for a while but only gave the anime a try after I learned the manga is close to its end, so that's why I also plan to read the manga later.
>>370993sasunaru is way more famous and it's based on Kishimoto's relationship with his twin brother of all people, so that really doesn't mean much.
No. 371008
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Anime-only "fans" have no right to ever speak on canon tbqh
No. 371010
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>has neither read nor watched jujutsu kaisen
>only contact made with the series is full comboing the op in taiko no tatsujin and saving art of characters i dont know the names of
No. 371026
>>371012I have nothing to prove and will read the manga for my own personal enjoyment so who cares. I just started by saying I get why it's a popular pairing and then you started sperging so hard it gave me the same vibes as watching a random crackhead in public transport yelling at himself.
>>371018>anime becoming famous world-wide was just a massive mistakeOk Ségolène Royal. I stopped being in fandoms over a decade ago, unless you think just because I said I watched a TV means I'm automatically part of a fandom?
No. 371042
>>371037Scroll up, I already said why. Then you'll sperg again and repeat the exact same things over and over again so I'll start ignoring you from now. I checked and it seems like there's no filler episode in the anime and no huge addition or changes, besides the battle with Sukuna in the second season being longer so I'm even more confused as to why you got so upset.
>>371041Pretty sure he had to approve a lot of stuff for the anime though but I don't remember all the details on top of my head.
>>371039Go say that to literature teachers trying to guess wtf is happening in novels and why and how the writers decided to write their books in a specific way.
(infighting) No. 371059
>>371057No one said that
Actually read the thread instead
No. 371080
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What counts as "canon" for a ship, anyway? Do they just have to have confirmed feelings for one another, or do they have to unambiguously be in a relationship to qualify?
Asking since I've always considered the latter as definitive "canon" and the former as just suggestive/ship-teasy, but it seems many others disagree
No. 371096
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I did Hiroshi's route in NTY and what the fuck? Some of you nonas kept posting cutesy art and mildly amusing screenshots as misleading propaganda for this VN. Maybe the developers being the people who made Lkyt should've tipped me off, but the OP was so cheerful that I didn't think about it. I didn't know this was a fucking utsuge. Yeah, I assumed Haru was lying about his amnesia because it was so inconsistent and there were some hints that it was fake, and I assumed the story would get dark because I saw someone recommend it as psychological, but I didn't expect it to take his character in that direction. Now I know what the OP lyrics mean, too. What the fuck. I'm so surprised by the character writing and foreshadowing. It completely changed how I saw him after the end. Fantastic story so far. I loved all three of Hiroshi's endings because they were depressing in different ways. Can't wait to play the other routes and watch these characters suffer more.
No. 371111
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>>371096that's why i spent months trying to tell you sheeple it's kino. i'm not crazy or a barafag, it's just unexpectedly phenomenal yakuza bl.
and the propaganda makes the emo hit even harder. that's the least depressing route too. do the old men next, maki was the blueprint for yael.
No. 371134
>>371111Will do! Thanks for the advice; I didn't know recommended route order. I am not a fan of Maki's Justin Bieber-ass haircut, but I will persevere in the name of watching
anime boys suffer horrifically. It's absolutely insane to me that Hiroshi is the least depressing, but I guess I'll see for myself.>>371122I've only played one route, so maybe my recommendation doesn't mean much, but I really like it thus far and you should totally give it a try.
No. 371140
>>371111>Hiroshi's is the least depressing routeNTY was my first dabble into playing a blvn and I saw it recommended here so I decided to try it. I literally had to put the game down after finishing his route because I couldn't handle how
fucking depressed I felt and haven't touched it since because I needed time to process everything. I loved it thought and do plan to finish the game eventually.
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>>371140kek the other three had me tearing up here and there, but it was only when I got to
ryu's route that I cried so hard I puked a little and had to take a nap about it so enjoy that. I've never been one to cry over fiction. had to take a break the same way before I could finish.
>>371134>I am not a fan of Maki's Justin Bieber-ass haircutbe nice, he's a tard…
No. 371214
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Did anyone else lose the ability to enjoy anime/japanese/BL content as they got older?
I transitioned into a full blown slasher and can only get into ships from western media / live action or more realistically human / less stylized animation.
Not trashing fujos because I used to love BL and I miss it, there’s so much content I’m missing out on but it just does nothing for me anymore. Did I just become a xenophobic boomer or something?
No. 371219
>>371214I know what you mean. Sometimes I look back on anime ships I was obsessed with, and I can't really remember what I saw in them aside from looks. They just didn't have enough substance to sustain my interest I guess. Live action characters in western series are a little more solidly developed and complex, even if they're not so flawless looking.
Actually I'm not so sure it's got much to do with which country it came from. The last fictional ship I loved was from a chinese novel with both a live action and an anime, and I think without the drama I'd have lost interest in the cartoon version of them. Maybe it's more about having a real face to look at instead of a simplistic drawing, it might penetrate my psyche more deeply.
No. 371269
>>371217Oh same anon, I didn’t mean RPF, just that my ships all transitioned to 3DPD now, I can’t get into any anime ships anymore. Maybe it’s because so many of the stories are centered around high school / early college? That or maybe I just relate more to western characters since we’d have more in common culturally.
If anyone has any recs for good BL with actual adults though I’d be willing to give it a shot
No. 371368
>>371364You're tired because you don't get to see the stuff you want. But Japan has pretty much made manga of everything. Learn Japanese and you'll get to see said stuff.
Unless you mean you're getting tired of drawings? In that case there's still stuff with real people.
If what you're tired of is Japanese storytelling well there's nothing to do about that.
No. 371375
>>371214You're definitely not alone, half of my old fujo friends got converted by Kingsman and Succession
and part of me did too. Stories heavily focused on romance don't do as much for me as they used to, I prefer solid stories and characters first and the romance (and sex) can stay relegated to fanfic.
>>371360When anons say westshit, they don't mean western BL, they mean shipping. I don't care as much if the guys are old or ugly anymore as long as the chemistry is there tbh, they're not "real" people.
No. 371385
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>>371376Well, some of those friends are
dadsonfags so they ate up picrel.
>>371381Reading comprehension, nona. I just said I don't care.
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>>371214I was an RPF fujo in middle school obsessed with emo bands and youtubers alongside regular animu like Hetalia so I was never against 3DPD. Though my main obsessions are all 2D right now.
>>371375>Successionbased
No. 371491
>>371150Saw someone who summarized what happened to haru and
his brother, the company released a book, and it was really disturbing. Their eroges are as depressing and I think some are set in the same universe as Harus. Should have done a DLC instead. It'd be better that way. I felt like the game was missing a lot of explanations, but it wasn't bad overall. It a good game and I like unreliable narrator protagonists. It's time they release a new game. A past or supernatural setting would be nice.
No. 371517
>>371495Sorry for the confusion. By
brother I meant narimiya. The yakuza psychopath had him fuck his parents and then chopped his arm off and shoved it down his father throat and left him to choke to death. Then his mother had all her limbs cut off and other gross details was raped repeatedly and she died pregnant with haru. Narimiya cut her belly off bc he was hungry?? and found haru but bc he only had one arm he dropped haru accidentally and it's implied that this is why haru is a little slow but also bc of the trauma and ptsd terrible things happened to him. There are still some inconsistencies there too, but this really deserved a DLC instead of a booklet. They took their time to release too. But since then they are really improving and listening to their fans. Many fans complained about the lack of romance and love and they made sure to add both in lkyt.
Btw anon can you remind me what happened to
ryuus sister and how haru was involved in that?
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>>371495>It's actually quite dark that Haru not only murdered him despite him being his only friend in there but when he got out, skinwalked him and pretended to be him to Kouichi.I've seen a lot of fucked up shit in blvns but this reveal was definitely up there kek. haru is fucking insane for that, replaying that route with what he's doing in mind is crazy and contrasting his behavior there with his overflowing tenderness in
ryu's route is even crazier. they really loved eachother. I love how each route adds so many new layers to him as a character.
inui's spouler mode lines about are some of the most heartbreaking shit in the game (but the shower one was hot af). he must be harboring pretty intense guilt over killing hiroki that led to him going crazy though if it's one of the only memories of his entire life he can recall in graphic detail, still having nightmares about it to this day when he's blocked most of his other traumatic experiences out. my poor little meow meow who never did nothin to nobody…
also (major spoiler for ryu bad end 1)
anon must've been talking about his real (half) brother and not hiroki, who's backstory isn't fully told in game but is in the book. renren and kaori's sad backstories are also detailed in the book but didn't make it to the game. inui doesn't take in people for no reason I guess.
>>371517>can you remind me what happened toI don't think haru had any involvement in that,
he only lied and said he did to get ryu in attempt to give up his search for her. she was kidnapped and sold to the same rich sickfuck haru kills in ryu's bad end, and ended up in the hallway you see in other end endlessly humming clair de lune, the song that plays in the credits of ryu's bad end 2. No. 371545
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Curious to see my paradesisters' lists
https://tiermaker.com/create/parade-blvn-character-tier-list-maker-15470913Apparently my type is the ones that suffered more than Jesus No. 371574
>>371522Same, I've played and read quite a few fucked up stuff in bl and I don't mind in general,I'm pretty desensitized after all these years, but maybe because I also playes parades main companys eroges, clock up games, and saw in detail and in graphics what these people do to those they abduct i felt for Haru more. Room n9 was nothing compared to Nemurenu Hitsuji for example, who is btw connected in a way?? to nty? I saw a poster in one of the cgs the boys like a host club. Would be nice, everyone happy haru included in a host club. I read rens rens story too it was really sad but I really like how close he was with the girl to the point they became siblings. Someone should be happy in that game haha. I liked Ryus story the best too tbh, and how he saved the little girl.
Thank you for the explanation! I really need to replay the game. Tbh I didn't like it much because I played it when I was quite young. But now I understand how deep it is. I actually really like it that parade moved on to lkyt because they do have in a lot of their games that organization etc. One of their upconing eroge games has it again too from what I saw, set back in the 90s. I'd like a blvn version of dead days or maggot baits. Waiting for a blvn game announcement usually they release a new blvn every 3-4 years.
>>371526Yes anon here!
https://www.tumblr.com/somnimouse/744884761320882176/i-would-really-like-to-know-harus-section-ive?source=shareSame blog has some other summaries too but not all the book.
If I ever get my hands on it I'll happily translate it but they don't have digital version which is such a bummer.
No. 371583
>>371528>>371533Same anon, I think it's important to play by the route order of Hiroshi>Maki>Kouichi>Ryu.
I was first like that too tbh, Hiroshis route doesn't reveal a lot of stuff and it's from the tamest but the more you dive in the more you uncover. I like how lines pop up after clearing each route and move to another. But I'll agree on the unfulfilling part like
if you don't like sad/parting/not clear what's going to happen endings I don't recommend games from that company in general, you won't like them. It's their first game to me there are a of inconsistencies and stuff that needed more exploration and by fully understanding wtf is happening you'll need to play some of their eroges set in the same universe, read the book + the creators interviews. It'd be better if they just released a fandisk and a dlc at this point or even dramacds. But I cut them a slack because it really was their first blvn ever, they are an eroge company after all and since then they have improved dramatically. And listen to their fans. And pamper to their female fans too. From voiceless protagonists they make eyecandy cuties and hire vas for them too + added romance.
And other companies have done this too like saya no Uta and sweet pool are connected, paradise, pigeon blood are connected in a way to some of their otome games. Omega vampire, animamundi and princess nightmare were connected. They advertise their other games through them. It's not uncommon.
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Sorry in advance for bringing yumeshit into the fujo thread, but I'm interested in NTY because I think Maki is beautiful and cool. Without spoiling me, is it a totally impossible read of Maki's character to go into it hoping to yume him afterwards?
I'll play the game either way because it looks good, I just want the right mindset going in. I see in picrel that he's straight but I'm not sure if it's straight out a joke or a "I'm straight but this one man is an exception" thing, as is so frequent in BL.
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>>371658You will never be haru
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>>371662He's a ryan gosling/mike breaking bad autism man with gap moe, unironically might be based in part on mike or the guy from drive. Self inserting with him would be gay unless you want to self insert as his fucked up mpdg bf because of the way they're written. Maki's oneitis for him was the only thing that could cure his autism. Their ship is the best overall to me, he's kind of the
soulmate route.
>>371574You're welcome!! I want to replay it after talking about it so much too kek or at least maki's route. It sits with hiroshi in relatively cozy territory ♥ and it hasn't been that long since I replayed hiroshi kek. What inconsistencies stood out to you?
>One of their upconing eroge games has it again too from what I saw, set back in the 90sI saw that! The aesthetic of all the promo art is sick, I rarely play eroge without bl but it and Nemurenu Hitsuji are def on my radar for a while. I heard the latter is like Tarantinoshit in edgy vn form which is right up my alley, but I think I'll work through my bl backlog a little more before I tap into violent gen eroge that I'll need mtl training wheels to read kek.
>I'd like a blvn version of dead days or maggot baitsThis just with an a more coherent story would be HUGE for some people kek I'd be interested in seeing that play out too
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Out of curiosity, do you have top/bottom physique preferences when you read BL? Tradition dictates that the uke is delicate while the seme is buff, or they are both beautiful bishies. But I've been reading more webtoons recently and noticing more buff bottoms than I used to, like in Doyak's Wet Sand (picrel) and Jaxx's stuff (Walk on Water and Under the Green Light). I used to really dislike buff guys in BL, but I think I'm starting to get used to it and feel a little less set in my scrawny pretty boy ways…
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>>371569hang in there, nona. if you wanna cope, the build up of his mystique in other routes before u get his is one of the best parts.
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>>371677I can't say more without spoiling but they're a such lana del rey couple by the end
https://youtu.be/TdrL3QxjyVwYou should still do hiroyuki's route hirst for the pacing tho
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>>371672Kinda ranges. I'm usually not into super big body type variation between the uke and the seme and prefer when they're both cute looking, not always though obviously.
No. 371707
I'm so jealous of fans of Chinese BL for getting so much merch.
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To all those interested, we now have a separate historyfag yaoi thread (following discussion on /ot/):
>>>/m/371706>>>/m/371706>>>/m/371706 No. 371723
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>>371720They're cool, but I prefer female BJDs (or feminine boy) and don't have room for them anyway.
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>>371723in china you see a lot more bishie dolls with long hair and long, flowy clothes which i like even better than female bjd, but the price is a no. this one is over $2000.
No. 371751
>>371671Maki cute! The inconsistencies that I found was how haru was written sometimes. They portray him as being unemotional and that can only feel about 80% human emotions due to trauma ptsd
but also the head trauma and yet I personally find him very emotional and this statement wrong especially in bad endings and Ryus route, seeing him how he treats the little girl how he cares for the little kitten. This he can't feel yet he feels. The girl who summarized their book write something similar too so I guess I'm not the only one nitpicking haha. Another is I wish they explored both haru and
his half brother narimiya more in the game it would really make more sense and the whole experience would be different but I guess the writers maybe did think of maybe realising a dlc or wanted to test the waters with fujoshis first, nty had no gore in at least shown in the cg or any other extreme fetishes. It was their first game after all. They went more clock up style with room n9, and lkyt. It's logical after all. And maybe the reason they didn't reveal much about haru was because they didn't want haru to get hated? Idk i can't hate haru. The book does say that
he was raped since he was 6 by his father, that yakuza psychopath and was forced to do a lot of disgusting and horrifying things including raping people of all ages. I think it'd be important to learn more about haru in general because I see a lot of fujoshi sisters confused about haru and not liking him. Don't get him. My opinion about him changed after reading about his past tbh and playing the clock up games. Maybe they did plan to make a fandisk or something in the end but didn't work out. They were planning an OVA too. It's just me nitpicking don't mind me haha. I've played a lot of blvns after all. I find inconsistencies even in my favorite games.
Mtling clockup games is pretty easy actually! Nemurenu is pretty dark though and
I really don't recommend it if you can't take women suffering. They go through shit there and really show how fucked up this disgusting organization is. I did skip a lot of torture scenes especially the amputation ones. I don't remember if euphoria and fraternite are connected to the same universe too since I didn't complete them. I tend to play eroge with bl and otome elements too haha. Or the closest to a female gaze/POV. I like clock up for that they really try to pamper to female audiences. I like both artists too ntys and norizane the reason I played games they did art for haha. Also a lot of their writers/staff have previously worked on bl games. I wish them the best overall.
>>371624Urobochi gen worked on both games so I wouldn't be surprised if they were connected. The theory, at least to me seems more plausible because
of zebras dad and what he "worships for". And the game doesn't take place in a ABO universe where everyone is affected and even youji himself doesn't know wtf is wrong with him. That's why I find these two games connected, after Saya some humans were affected and one of them was youji Zenya and Tetsuo. But that's my pov/theory so please do take it with a grain of salt as I've played both games ages ago. Another game that I needed more information/explanations.
No. 371803
>>371751I think they wanted to keep him mysterious like the organization itself. Only leaving hints and the rest up to the reader's imagination prevented it from getting campy or obnoxiously violent which could've made it more difficult to take seriously, and a lot of VNs fall into that gratuitous violence problem. So much so that it's become a staple of them so I'm used to it,
in fact I loved reading about Haru's horrific past in the book kek, but it does make them feel kinda goofy and overly edgy at times when that isn't always the intention. Look at how >371528's first response to learning details was "ow the edge" lol. I think them not going that route made the experience more enjoyable to me personally, but I see how it doesn't come without its own set of problems; they might've kept things a little
too barebones for some. Nty absolutely could've used a fandisc to contain all that, they even said in the book that they had to cut a lot of things due to time constraints.
Narimiya being Haru's big brother who single-handedly (pun intended) raised him from birth was too big a reveal too late in the game to really dive into it but I wanted to know more too. If only they made him like 20% hotter and gave a true
incest Narimiya route that only unlocks after you do everything else, and I know I'm not alone in wanting that because there's a ton ship art of them for a bl mc x npc pairing. Parade seem really into the idea of avoiding true routes so the reader can consider their fave the true waifu though, rip.
I do agree that Haru showed a bit more emotion than
he was made out to be capable of and more than that, he was overflowing with empathy and emotional intelligence. Maybe that was only referring to the
intensity of his emotions and his ability to form and maintain attatchments? Because in that sense it's kinda true, those are the things that have been conditioned out of him since childhood. It lines up with his actions too as we watch him kill each of his bfs without a moment of hesitation in their BE2s (except Hiroshi, the only person we know for a fact he regrets killing), as well as his indifference in the face of his own death in the ballad ends. Plenty of his descisions and actions do come across as borderline sociopathic or at least morally grey, but he still retains a lot of heart. Towa in Lkyt was kind of like that too, might be why I love them both. Haru acted the way he did to Maki because of his own paranoia about ending up like him one day (losing that heart and becoming an apathetic brick, a waste of the free life he fought so hard for in Haru's eyes) after all.
>I don't remember if euphoria and fraternite are connected to the same universe too since I didn't complete themKek me neither but euphoria is probably the same universe. I can put up with that shit if the plot is good enough to compensate but if it's just another maggot baits etc I have to pass.
No. 371879
>>371751>The theory, at least to me seems more plausibleThis is an interesting theory, and I'd never heard it before now. I don't know how probable it is, though, considering
in the ending where Saya blooms and infects the world, it's basically implied most of humanity had perished, and the cool doctor lady was one of the few people surviving with her mind somewhat intact. We see the world covered in meat and changing because of Saya, and it doesn't really resemble the world we see in sweet pool at all. Then again, it's been a long time since I read either of those, so I could be misremembering. I've always kind of seen them as thematically different interpretations of a similar concept rather than directly related. To me, sweet pool felt 'scarier' on a more personal level, while SnU was more concerned with a cosmic scale while addressing that same core concept. I see SnU and sweet pool more like cousins rather than siblings, I guess?
>Mtling clockup games is pretty easy actually!Is it worth doing if I can handle dark content but want to learn more about the shared universe thing? I've always been under the impression they were nukige with a bit more plot than most.
>>371803>I do agree that Haru showed a bit more emotion than he was made out to be capable ofMaybe I'm misinterpreting, but I think that's part of what makes him a compelling protagonist.
Unless I misunderstood, Haru does still have emotions, despite everything that has happened to him and everything he has done. Haru's upbringing is the reason why he is the way he is; it's not as though he were born that way. If anything, it just reflects the fact that, while his brain is obviously scrambled and his perception of morality is warped, he is still just a person beneath it all. We're seeing the story from his perspective, so we have to filter what the narrative tells us through that lens. The way I interpreted it, that contradiction felt like an intentional choice on the writers' part. No. 371888
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>>371879>Unless I misunderstood, Haru does still have emotions, despite everything that has happened to him and everything he has doneHe does. One of the central themes of nty is the effect the environment a child is raised in has on them as they grow up.
Since the summer in nty is the first time he's gotten a taste of normal life in the outside world since he was a very young child, I don't feel like it was truly out of character for him to be a little extra emotive either. He does have emotions, he was always supposed to have emotions, but I think that "he's about 80% less emotional than a normal person" book quote referred to how he handles his emotions very differently than a normal person would and he's able to repress them with ease, like he has to do that to get by doing what he does for a living without going crazy. He also has that almost animalistic mindset of brutal realism keeping him grounded, another result of his upbringing just like his sixth sense. He acts more like a cat or dog (or a crow?) than a regular person, cute but sad when you remember why.What a great character though omg there aren't many guys in bl I feel the urge to dissect like this if any
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I like this mangaka's art so much and her premises are unique (especially historical BL, yummy) but the one volume format really hurts her story telling so bad. It gets so melodramatic and there's no downtime to just get to know and get attached to the characters.
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>>371916They don't care about us fujos even if it's only a way to give them boatloads of money. The misogyny is just too strong. Isekaislop n. 456 while half as profitable is more palatable to fuckass gigantic japanese anime studios who need to make shareholders happy.
YOI only happened because MAPPA was a small studio back then. Now they're too big and so it's toast for fujo anime. It's our destiny to live on the fringers forever, fuck this gay earth.
No. 371926
>>371924Didn't Mappa sell out for shounen?
They only ever did one isekai.
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>>371891RIP, I'm sad but I expected it and have long since moved on from YOI. But it got me into figure skating, I poured so much time and effort into it for years after watching the series and I still love it. And I'll never forget watching it with /a/, truly the funniest, most hype time I've had watching anime
No. 371936
>>371926I meant in a general sense, if you look at the lineup of each seasons for the past couple of years. Of course MAPPA sold out to the even bigger cash cow making it absolutely impossible for them to ever make fujobait anime again.
>The same studio making my male power fantasy releasing anime about fags? REEEEEEEEEEt. obese japanese otaku
No. 371943
>>371936I mean, it just seems silly when it's pretty obvious that it was the grab for shounen titles like Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsawman that did it. Hell, idolshit moids are worried about ZombieLand Saga's movie getting canceled too.
Meanwhile Chainsawman had 12 individual ending for each episode and is coming out with a movie, I doubt anybody even remembers Campfire Cooking.
No. 371946
>>371898Looks nice thanks for the rec
nonnie. Any story in particular I should check out?
No. 371988
>>371891like seriously, how the hell do they fuck up this badly? did they take more projects? YOI literally would've printed money
>>371910ohhh I want to know the gossip, would be interested if it was her doing, who knows
No. 372029
>>372027Sometimes people try shipping series just out of popularity, saw it with Frieren too.
What's worse is when there's a sense of superiority because what they like is cool despite there being zero chemistry or male interactions whatsoever.
No. 372046
>>372016Of course not. I know personal enjoyment always takes priority, but it would be better if people could let go of things when it becomes clear that the creator is awful. A lot of times ships from works like that don't have any basis, they are literally just two men (who might not even have talked to each other). From the outside it seems like wasted potential since that dedication could've gone into something personal that can't be ruined by some moid
>>372020Exactly. Aki/Angel is doomed and both of them are boring and all ships with Denji are pure cope because basically all of csm is about him wanting to fuck girls
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>>372042I feel it's more due to what Himmel represents as a memory of a love lost to time.
Also he's pretty cute.
No. 372066
>>372050He literally has the most boring design I’ve ever seen
Everyone in that anime looks like a default NPC in a fantasy mobile game.
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>>372007That's just how corpos work.
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>>370938Idk about South Park, but Homestuck has some pretty solid character writing, despite the story being a confusing mess. The sprite art (where they have no arms) is non representational, and there are places where the characters are drawn in greater detail, like picrel. Also Homestuck is full of shipping bait in general, because the aliens are an all-bisexual race with their own quirky relationship system. There are several canon m/m and f/f ships, some of which are human/alien if that's what you're into. Gomen for cringe.
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>>372010I genuinely think this is one of the best plot twists in any romcom. They pulled it off so perfectly, it made complete sense and explained a lot but also changed everything in such a romantic and legit funny way.
No. 372115
>>372114nta but I had to do the same thing once and found it by typing something like "horror manga about child murderer" which remarkably brought it up.
He does have sex with
a bunch of little boys in his weird little murder cult but it's not BL.
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>>372109I can't tell if you're baiting. Pepsicola is so bland and basic. If you're going to suggest alternatives to Davekat, at least pick something less milquetoast. At least Johnkat and Davekat have a more interesting dynamic instead of the usual childhood best friends shtick
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>>371891I'm sorry, I have to post it.
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Nonacitas I need recommendations for BL with retarded characters and plots, in the funny haha way not the frustrating way. Both manga and webtoons are fine.
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>>372069Japanese are obsessed with the classic Yuusha archetype.
Himmel is pretty clearly intentionally made with that in mind.
No. 372167
>>372160Smells Like Green Spirit. It had a dark side too but it gets a couple laughs out of me most chapters and it's goofy.
19 Days is funny sometimes, but it's a webtoon where they are no-homo forever.
Everything Kotetsuko Yamamoto makes has gags in it, she's pretty funny.
Yume Miru Vampire has a retarded plot with an incubus and a vampire but it's good at the same time. more smutty than funny though
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>>372160Hashi no XL Saizu is really funny and sweet despite the plot being driven by the uke discovering that the seme has a giant anaconda cock (his words, not mine).
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>>372136The seethe was fucking glorious. hetfags got btfo but i guess they're back to winning
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>>372186free! got like 6 movies in the end, though. crazy.
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>>372198I haven't read Can't think straight yet, thanks
nonnie No. 372206
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>>370897well i mean, mizisua is genuinely boring. it's two cute girls who love one another with no complication whatsoever outside of one dying, the big m/m ship in comparison has:
>unrequited love>size difference>visual contrast>an actual animated kiss scene >tons of content because fujos love to actually create content not trying to say it's inherently deeper or anything but the tropes it's working off of are just better. picrel is funny though, i wonder if we'll ever reach an era where gl overtakes bl in fandom
i kind of hope not. quality for f/f shit tends to be higher across the board because there's just less shit to sift through. hope this isn't too ot for the fujo thread No. 372210
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>>372160Zettai BL ni Naru Sekai VS Zettai BL ni Naritakunai Otoko is a parody manga about BL tropes, MC is a straight guy but I thought it was pretty amusing
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>>372202Of course nona, I hope it's sufficiently retarded for you.
>>372206I've said it before, but Mizisua could have been a lot more interesting if they'd emphasized the fact that Sua is apparently selfish and possessive about Mizi and knowingly sacrifices herself to make sure she'll always be irreplaceable, but they squander every single opportunity to make Mizisua half as compelling as Ivantill. And then people pretend not to understand why people are more excited about the ship that combines some of the most popular tropes, like hurt/comfort, pining, obsession, self sacrifice for someone who doesn't love you back, etc.
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>>372211>they squander every single opportunity to make Mizisua half as compelling as Ivantillyeah definitely…like i'm pretty sure she's all over hyuna now. grim and zzz
i bet everyone complaining about ivantill's popularity are reading the fics in private kekeke. forgot my yaoi tax
No. 372339
>>372196>haru got with stalker makoto in the end >sosuke found new bf>the movie npcs got into a polygamous 3p relationship >rin the only one who got dumped and got no dickWhat did Rin do to deserve all this.
Makoto is shit shit. He doesn't deserve haru and rin doesn't deserve all this cucklordy. Makoto must die inshallah.
No. 372343
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>>372339Shark teeth characters are the worst, all of them deserve to be cucked.
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>>372339without makoharu we would have never have gotten this obviously yandere!makoto actor AU doujinshi repackaged as original BL, so it was worth it in the end.
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>>372343i think shark teeth men is cute
No. 372392
>>371891>>371916>>371924According to insider information it was cancelled because Mappa didn't want to portray gay relationships and thus risk having the entire series banned in China (the largest market for anime outside of Japan) but they couldn't admit it and instead had to make up bullshit reasoning about the anime "not being profitable". That's apparently also why the staff was so evasive about referring to Victor and Yuuri as lovers during interviews and panels. The original creators weren't planning on continuing the series but Mappa wanted to milk the new cash cow that they had in their hands and announced the movie, but wanted it to be only about Victor and not a mention of Yuuri due to said possibilities of marketing it for the Chinese but also complying with their censorship laws. The original creators didn't want to censor themselves so they hit a stalemate as they didn't budge with their creative vision and Mappa didn't want to let the potential million-dollar franchise go, and finally the creators left and the project fell apart.
Shit like this is exactly why I can't stand those edgelord fujos sperging about how they don't give a shit about IRL gay rights and faggots and dykes can burn in hell, how dense do you have to be to not realize how society's views on homosexuality affects the media you consume? God fucking knows how many BL animes we would have as we speak if conservative Asia wasn't so fucking terrified of gay people. And yes, misogyny also definitely plays a role here. If it would've been a male director and a male writer, they would've gotten free range to do whatever they chose to. How many gay animes has Ikuhara shat out during his career with no repercussions?
tl;dr: Mappa got greedy, used fujos as a stepping stone to become a respectable studio and abandoned them after shounen slop became their new pay check. Movie got cancelled because the creators didn't want to comply with China's homophobic censorship laws and Mappa wanted them to.
No. 372403
>>372392Do you have a source for this? I'm not disbelieving you, I just want to know more.
>>372398>>372399It's not worth infighting over imo, but I always find it creepy when countries have laws dictating what kind of sex/relationships it is acceptable for two consenting adults to have. It just strikes me as authoritarian and nanny-state. I'm disgusted by foot fetishists, but I would oppose a government outlawing foot fetishism because that strikes me as an abuse of power.
Also how does this factor in with China's own BL subculture? I'm sure the whole social credit thing complicates matters, but there are Chinese artists, authors, studios, etc. who produce BL. I actually went to college with a Chinese international student who was a huge fujo. Super nice, too.
No. 372407
>>372403Lesbians are harmless mostly but gay males are horrible irl. Just look at the American gay male population and their misogyny and rampant sexual diseases. And they use the "oppression" the supposedly face to shield themselves from any
valid criticism. Don't forget that the original gay rights movement before lesbians joined them were also pro-pedo, and lots of gay males adopt kids to pimp them to pedos and enable and normalize surrogates for that as well. I don't think china and some other anti-gay countries are against it because of the dating and sex aspect, but because of these negatives that come with it. Iirc there's a gay politician in the Shanghai government who's openly married to another man and the laws in that city aren't anti-gay. And I heard from some Chinese people that the cultural reason they dislike homosexuality is simply their bloodline not being continued rather than thinking it's a degenerate thing, and they don't always disown their kids or harass them for it or something, but I'm not 100% sure about that. On a side note I'm really weirded out by this constant demonizing of chinese people I see on the internet, when the chinese population is the most diverse ever with 50+ ethnicities and cultures, and not all chinese people share the same opinions and beliefs. Yet everyone acts like every chinese person ever is the devil incarnate or something and gets surprised when they turn out to be normal people kek. But the countries with actually insane evil vile people are forbidden to get criticized, go figure.
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rewatching this and kyaa the princess carry
No. 372484
>>372420Nta but historically gay men have tried time and time again to get pedophilia recognized as a sexuality, this is a fact. But it's not because they're gay, it's because they're males. I do agree with anon above that no amount of being pro-gay men will ever change China's stance on them, and it's ridiculous so tell women to blindlessly accept everything about the lgbt (including trannies) community just so they can have some bl entertainment that's made by other women anyway.
>>372412 is right, men don't need to suck the asses of lesbians to get their yuri more slop at least 3 times a season. Also let's not forget that real men and bl are very different, and men irl (gay or not) regularly attempt to trample women's rights.
But the china thing sounds kinda bullshit considering there are a lot of chinese bl fans and also danmei and shit like genshin are chinese, and they have tons of fujo bait.
(derailing) No. 372499
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So…uh…do any anons here have BL OCs? You guys go first I'm embarrassed
No. 372505
>>372499There was mention of ancestor of one main guy who was an throne usurper, and years later spin-off protagonist's ancestor mentioned to be his right hand. Just mentions. One of them doesn't even have appearance, so I was brainrotted about them a lot, making their relationship similar to Ignis Scientia/Noctis Lucis Caelum, being assigned to each other from early childhood, raised and trained together, one is quite sentimental, quiet prince yet dutiful and ready to make drastic actions for the goals, and his noble friend who brought into royal guardian conspiracy ready for anything to protect his prince resulting in doom of prosperous realm. Probably I should've posted it in the writing thread, I just couldn't stop typing, sorry for off-topic.
No. 372511
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>>372392>insider information Yeah, and your uncle works at Bandai. Use better bait. Even the Russia war theory is more plausible.
It was cancelled because too many players on the committee wanted that pie, but nobody would take less than what they felt they were entitled too. Couple that with production issues we'll never be privy to (missed Olympics, Wuhan Flu fuckery, potential disagreements as to where the story should go etc.). The film was originally planned to screen in December 2019, then was postponed "in order to substantially scale up the content more than originally planned":
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-09-05/yuri-on-ice-anime-film-delayed-from-2019-opening/.150800In 2020 the writer was still working on the script:
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-04-24/yuri-on-ice-mitsurou-kubo-says-she-still-working-on-the-film-from-home/.158928If the China market was so all-encompassing and powerful, you'd never get shows like
Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete and
Bravern, the latter even being partially produced by Tencent (how do you explain that?).
>>372407Americans are degenerates in general. The whole 'poly' thing is super-popular in the States. Plus parking lot prostitution and strip clubs everywhere. Even the president's son is a drug addict and had a child with stripper. Unthinkable in Japan.
No. 372513
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>>372419Lolcow disowned
https://lolcow.farm/2X and disappeared it from the menu. Can't antagonise trannies too much, else they retaliate.
(derailing) No. 372545
>>372518Yes that's why what you should be supporting is the downfall of their government.
I wonder why some of them don't just publish anonymously in other countries. Surely they could go to a japanese publisher with their already popular series and ask to get paid through an international bank account right? Or is even that banned in china?
No. 372546
>>372499 >>372529Artist
nonnie with my own bl OCs here, I wish I could be friends with you guys but I'm wishing both of you the best with your OC and comic endeavors!
No. 372561
>>372529I also have my own bl ocs/story, I'm slowly working towards improving art so I can maybe one day make a comic. I want to make a bl game too. We can do it
nonnie!
No. 372587
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If I wasn't familiar with R+V, I would assumed it's 2010s BL adjacent manhwa.
No. 372588
>>372529I don't draw often but I'm trying to write a BL novel with my best friend, it's based on a silly yet very popular fairy tale, mixed with a very unexpected movie that she's obsessed with. This small story will be charged with so much autism that it will cause autism, I just know it.
Sometimes we like to draw the main characters and such, but it's nothing too crazy.
No. 372621
>>372499i have 2 sets of OCs
banging around in my head. id started to write one of the stories down but stopped when i thought about actually posting it anywhere since its original content you kno no one but yourself is interested.
the one i started to write down is like a fucked up love triangle with two kennedy-esque rich bros fighting over the younger brother's roommate. the other is about an incubus that gets summoned via a sex-with-a-virgin type ritual.now you go
No. 372661
>>372621I see you're a soap opera dynamics fan. Is it comedic? My OC story is about
a remote village that's home to a religious cult that worships anyone born with a rare genetic condition, uke-kun is one of these people. They blind him and lock him up in a shrine/temple from a young age to "protect him from evil". Seme-kun is one of the few boys his age in the village and is basically assigned to help him with basic daily tasks and keep him company. Honestly, it's more focused on the character study of two people being affected by religious trauma and the gay romance is a side plot. I wish it was easier to publish original BL content online. I know royalroad gets decent traffic but most of the readers are male, there isn't any meaningful BL niche on there.
No. 372799
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Why does Mangagamer continue to give work to those woke-infected translators? Should I write them an angry email? I bloody hate American snowflakes and their PC 'culture'.
What he says here is 'aren't we both trannies'.
No. 372813
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>>372808>I'm more offended by adelta's own tranny fetish.I'm kekking. Hard agree. There were already two trannies in Hashihime, she's really got something for them.
Nayrt but I was also bothered by the MG UuuC translation, if you know basic JP it's pretty obvious when Shirou calls him a fucking faggot yet the translation is all sanitized, he doesn't even call him a queer like he would in 1970s America. Bothered me because Shirou is my homophobic husbando. It's not even about calling him an okama, it's about calling him a shitty gay homo. And they censored even that. Big cry.
No. 372832
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>>372825Not enjoying this based schizokino smh…
Filtered, dare I say.
No. 372843
>>372829>you were proven wrongI wasn't involved but I vividly remember keking irl when I caught up to the part of the thread where like 10 different anons took turns making fun of you for being such an autist and not a single soul agreed with you. do you want a repeat of that?
>>372832rinko has good ideas but her execution is shit and all her games have that point where you can tell she got tired of working on it and started sprinting to the finish line. she needs some assistance.
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>>372843For Uuc it's almost the opposite, the first route is extremely rushed and nonsensical and makes absolutely zero sense, it's only on the second and third routes you can finally take a breather and understand what the fuck is going on. The character interactions are also better and more fleshed out in route 2 and 3. But I do agree UuC is rushed as fuck overall, and so is Hashihime past kawase's route. It's still pretty impressive shit for someone who does it all alone, for UuC only she drew over a 1000 CGs in the span of 3 years.
Still schizokino even with all the flaws, and I dare say the flaws make it better. Nothing more soulful than a doujinge full of flaws, fetishes and autism.
No. 372876
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>>372863I do understand your point. I'm not sure she did write UuuC out of order, though. Akira and Shou were the only characters drawn and teased for about a year or two after she began working on the new game. She seems to have drawn their CGs and scenes first. With Hashihime too you have more evidence she works in order, the story starts falling apart the longer you play, and it was planned as a kinetic novel without route option from the start.
I still enjoyed her games despite the mess because it's a rarity to have a VN of this quality amongst BLVNs, especially a doujinge. The standards are already not very high and she's doing interesting stuff nobody else was doing, starting by not having a cast of trope BLVN characters of the childhood friend/the rapechad/the blonde stoic/the cutesy moe guy/the old man. Her historical 'tism is also great.
No. 372894
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>>372884the plot too honestly, groundhogs day or timeloop fics have been around for a while now. the art's unique and the time period isn't a common sight but the most critically acclaimed bl game in japan has the same one with more attention to historical accuracy. uuuc is weird but not in a super subversive way.
>>372876we'll never know unless she says so I suppose. that's just the vibe I got from her work because she has a lot of the same issues as other writers who do that. her being the artist makes it harder to tell because some time you come up with your character's design before their attributes and vice versa.
I think there's a ton of quality bl vns out there, hers stand out in some areas like her creativity but not others. I recommend checking out akaaka, it's fully translated.
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>>372894>the most critically acclaimed bl game in japan has the same one with more attention to historical accuracyI agree that mebiusline is a masterpiece and does the Taisho setting much better. Hashihime doesn't hold a candle to Mebius but they're not even in the same ballpark, adelta is a doujin circle while holicworks isn't. It's also untranslated so most EOPs have no idea it exists and can't even enter this discussion. I honestly believe that Hashihime is a better game that dMMD or slow damage which were 7/10 slops with only fun aesthetics and music to match, which Hashihime also has albeit at a doujin level. The literary inspirations in Hashihime are also extremely interesting and varied and Dogra Magra was one of the most fucked books I've ever read. It incredibly was ahead of its time for 1930 and it still is. I also enjoy what she did with it in the story.
I know about akaaka and I do like it, used to be my favourite in the mid 2010s. Hashihime is indeed in the same vibe and I'd say it's an apt comparison since both are doujinge. In this sense I agree that all aspects confounded, akaaka is a better game. Too bad it wasn't R18 but the ero in adelta games is honestly abysmal I'd say her games are better off without h-scenes, kek.
No. 372904
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>>372884>Childhood friend, tsundere, deredere, stoic.Samefag: Hashihime came out in 2016, so it would be unfair to compare it to other similar doujinge that came out after it like Nie no Machi, so I won't. parade were doing interesting shit back then but their games were still quite niche until slow damage copied NTY!!! in 2020 and they released Lkyt, which is more more palatable to your average fujo. That said, for its time Hashihime did try to do something interesting with the LIs in my opinion. Deredere Hakase and literally irrelevant Hanazawa aside, at least 3 of the guys were in the childhood friends category and the true route is literally
adoptive son incest. In the end of Kawase's route Tamamori
literally doesn't love him and when it comes to Minakami, if this was a tropey BL
made by n+C he'd be the true route instead of the first. So I'd say it did do some interesting stuff in terms of LIs for its time. Especially considering the true route
is that no one exists and Tamamori just made them up in his head.
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>>372876>it was planned as a kinetic novel without route option from the startHashihime is my favorite BL game, but it really should've been kinetic. I actually enjoyed the shitty side routes, but I fully acknowledge they were a poor choice. I wish she'd saved them for a fandisk or something, because I think it'd be much easier to recommend to people if they didn't exist in the main game.
>>372884For me personally, I found the narrator of Hashihime to be unique in terms of BL VNs. A lot of the most popular titles have sort of generically nice MCs, even when they're tsundere. I felt like Tamamori was much more interesting than a lot of the MCs I've encountered. Sorry for the tangent, but in a lot of first-person books I've read, the story does little to 'justify' the narration being in first person (as in, the narrator's perspective feels so dull that it could've been written in the third person and very little would change). I feel like VNs suffer from this to an even greater degree, so seeing Tamamori actually have a unique perspective was a nice change of pace. That's not to say it's the only VN to do that, but I really appreciate it when I encounter it because I think the medium suffers from Generic MC Syndrome.
>>372894I could see UUUltraC being written out of order, but not Hashihime. Like that other anon implied, it felt too much like the author ran out of steam near the end for her to have written the other routes first. Also, do you have any recommendations for other doujin games? I know it's dumb, but I kind of prefer the unpolished feeling.
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>>372907>A lot of the most popular titles have sort of generically nice MCs, even when they're tsundere.If you haven't, you should give Mebiusline a try. Kyou my beloved……
No. 372922
>>372904I can't really see the
incest route as the true route because it was extremely short and almost seemed like it was only this way to be shocking. As a
dadson enthusiast it disappointed me. Also iirc adelta retconned it later anyway. I won't comment on Kawase because he's shit and I hate him. As for the ending,
Shingakkou did it better. I believe BL is inherently tropey and I don't see anything wrong with that but the only interesting thing about Hashihime was the setting and Tamamori.
No. 372924
>>372898>the ero in adelta games is honestly abysmal I'd say her games are better off without h-scenethisss, this whole post is like we share a brain nona lol I feel the same way about all of what you said, but I'm more harsh with my ratings so I put the nitroplus games are all in the 3 to 6 range. I still had my fun with most of them and would buy merch of my favs at a non-eyepopping price. when you think about it from an eop's perspective where the only vns people in that niche community are talking about about are those, adelta, hadaka, nucarnival, and parade, mainly on a surface level, it's easily one of the better games among those, top 5 at least. but the only REALLY good shit there is parade and their appeal lies entirely with people who can handle eternal suffering, whereas hashihime has a broader appeal and more ~aesthetic~ presentation working in its favor. it's a shame other good bl games with en tl like akaaka are so slept on, no1curr about tokyo onmyoji and ye old animamundi…
No. 372929
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>>372907the cage games are awesome if you want something really fun, edgy, and gorey with a creepy cute art style!! the duo behind those games went on to work at pil/slash and did the scenarios for paradise and its fan disks and dystopia no ou, right now they're working on a new game and a remake of cage with voices. there's this other gothy doujin game called melancholic dream tower that's been in my backlog forever, no voices either but it looks really cool, I still want to play it some day.
>>372926…what?
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>>372924>no1curr about tokyo onmyojiAw, I care about Tokyo Onmyouji. I thought it was great.
>>372910Thank you for the rec, nona. Unfortunately, I do not feel confident in my ability to read 45 hours of Japanese (I've finished shorter VNs with a lot of struggling, but due to circumstances in my life, I doubt I'll have the chance to improve, practice, or become proficient for the next few years). This seems even more difficult because I heard the language is quite challenging in Mebiusline. I know another anon has recommended MTLing the Russian patch in a previous thread, but I wouldn't feel right doing that. Maybe, in a few years, I'll have the chance to become skilled enough, but since it's a challenging read, it won't be any time soon.
>>372929Thank you for the recs, too! I've heard of the Cage series, and they look like a lot of fun.
>melancholic dream towerI just looked this one up, and it looks EXACTLY like my thing. From the art to the premise, this is the kind of shit I go crazy for kek. It's not terribly long, either, so I could probably manage it with my limited knowledge. Do you know how difficult the language is?
No. 372933
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>>372813>>372808My tinfoil theory is that writers at adelta are actually terfs masquerading as tranny supporters. You will see them put crossdressers who say shit like wanting to be a woman in their games, but actually paying attention to the narrative makes it clear that the character motivations were fucked
- "Madam" crossdressed because of being gay in a homophobic society, he wanted to be together with his scrote (who eloped with his side ho in the end kek) and also for supernatural reasons (the hashihime are pickme woman hating spirits so they stay away if a man crossdresses, thinking of him as a woman lol). He also acknowledges being male, I mostly see the tif fujos pushing the "madam is a tranny" interpretation
- Naoshi obviously wanted to be a woman so he could be free to pursue Kawase. He did have aesthetic appreciation for girly fashion too, but he was obviously a boy who had a dedicated male exclusive friend circle. It's also telling that Tamamori, the homophobic retard who had to literally go through 10+ bad timelines to accept his own gayness was the one to immediately "affirm" Naoshi as a woman
-cross dressing to keep the hashihime away was done by other characters too and nobody ever implies any of those men were "women"
In UruuC, the okama vs tranny discourse is pointless since jp gay culture is different from the west. Some okama may be confident gay men who just absorbed the whiny fake feminine body language from other okama, while others might have actual gender dysphoria and would larp as women. I support the translator for playing it safe and not using tranny. Anyway, the okama character, despite being pretty af (picrel), doesn't actually act stereotypically feminine (he's the top, doesn't actually wear dresses ever, is aggressive in his pursuing of his love interest). He is also implied to have been a
victim of parental emotional abuse and CSA/prostitution. That would fuck up anyone's view of his social gender role
Meanwhile, there is a side character that was a TIF, and she trooned out IMMEDIATELY after being raped by a piggy scrote. She was also a misogynist who described the rape as being "treated like a woman" cuz woman are just holes to rape amirite? Tragically, immediately after she recovered from the trauma of rape, she got into a relationship with another side character who is a downright creep and probably a TIM with an intersection condition (claimed to be neither male or female and implied that they have a small dick). This possible TIM is drawn like a woman and is voiced by one, but his behavior is reddit incel tier, constantly making sexual jokes with everyone and being inappropriate. He also took the rape
victim TIF to a hotel to have sex despite her being a minor. She had a creepy worshipping attitude towards him, calling him her goddess and somehow being ok with being fucked by him, it looked like textbook grooming to me. These two characters are what makes me think that adelta is fully aware of the depravity of male trannies and damaged emotional states of the females.
No. 372942
>>372933>writerstheres only one, adelta is indie and I don't think she's a
terf in any way. she's made some weird comments on lesbians in the past.
>>372930I'm not sure how difficult it is to read but I have read it uses some euphemisms and vague language here and there, but overall it shouldn't be a nightmare to read with mtl help.
No. 372965
>>372963I'm pretty sure Naoshi didn't want to only fuck Kawase, he wanted actual love. Having sex on the down low is one thing, actually becoming a couple recognized by society is another. Since a long time ago moids have fucked each other whenever they didn't have any women around them for an extended time, and many overall conservative societies pretended to not have any problems with gay sex, but it was always assumed that in the end everyone will become "normal" and do their duty to society aka procreate with a woman. Japan has never been progressive in this regard, they just changed their style of hypocrisy.
>A true transphobe would know that having no trannies in media would be better than them being negatively depicted.This I agree with tho, based
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What are some old or "outdated" yaoi tropes you still like? Creepy rapey seme/immature tsun uke is still my shit, bonus points if there's an age gap. It's a shame you don't see couples like this in modern bl anime anymore
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>>372924>but the only REALLY good shit there is parade and their appeal lies entirely with people who can handle eternal suffering, whereas hashihime has a broader appeal and more ~aesthetic~Spot on. Hashihime is babby's first non-n+C BLVN. I still think it's a good game but if you consider the entire space, parade's writing quality is greatly superior and even eclipses slow damage imo despite the fun music and aesthetics
because the story was complete assblasted garbage. If you consider untranslated stuff then you have of course Shingakkou and Mebiusline which are in the kamige tier. But most people have no idea about those except by name.
>>372922>As a dadson enthusiast it disappointed me.Same my nonnie… Irks me she couldn't even commit and keep
ojisan Tamamori for the 13 picosecond adelta Quality h-scene. Truly the mark of a coward and a missed opportunity.
Though my most painful incestfag disappointed moment was in
the nie no machi fandisk. Oh Izumi Banya…
>>372930Mebiusline isn't even actually that bad, especially with >current year MTL as help. The complicated kanji is mostly for aesthetics and in the chants and stuff, which you don't really need to understand. The ruskis who did the patch have a bunch of documents which help give context to a lot of the story and mythology in the story, which are easily translatable into English. If you can read basic jp there's really no point in MTL the Russian TL, just take playing the game as a learning opportunity, the complicated aspect of the game is greatly overhyped. It's mostly the history and mythology references which are complicated. Do it for Kyou, the best boy protagonist of any BL game. Tamamori pales in comparison. Also the fandisk is literally peak.
Also 45 hours kek, more like
a month. Especially if you have a job and play in jp. But that's the whole fun of playing untranslated VNs.
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>>372971i miss teacher/student pairings, tall, wide masculine seme/short feminine uke and the gay for you trope.
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>>372971Same, it's my favorite trope. It's still relatively common in Korean BL, especially historical ones like Steel Under Silk, but it definitely doesn't feel the same anymore and it feels practically extinct in anime. I read Low Tide in Twilight because it has that dynamic, but it's omegaverse kek.
No. 373013
>>372978>Mebiusline isn't even actually that badNot arguing with you, but I've seen people say there's a lot of technical terminology? Would it help to familiarize myself with any specific terms beforehand?
>bunch of documents which help give context to a lot of the story and mythology in the storyI'll also look into this, thanks. I'll probably give it a try whenever life calms down, but I do not feel confident in my patience or ability at all. It's one of those VNs I really want to read because I deeply enjoyed Tokyo Onmyoji (it probably wouldn't make my top 3, but definitely top 5). I'm worried about ruining it for myself if I read it before I am truly prepared. At the same time, I'm far too busy to ever be 'fully prepared,' so maybe I should just dive in. I appreciate the advice you've given, though.
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>>372985godtier taste, seisub has never been topped.
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE HAVING A NICHE SHIP FROM A NICHE FANDOM WHERE ALL THE FUJOS IN IT ARE OBSESSED WITH ONE SHIP SPECIFICALLY AND ITS NOT MINE AND THERES NEXT TO NO CONTENT OF IT AND LIKE NO ONE ELSE THAT SHIPS IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT
No. 373049
>>373024Weissman and Joshua… Kinda based but I can't get behind it because I actually like Estelle and Joshua an inordinate amount.
Not sure if you're talking about Mueller/Olivier or Reane/Crow as the one ship fujos care about but I hate both.
Kinda ashamed to admit it but Zero had the best M/M for me, I liked both Wazy/Wald and Lloyd/Randy. I always aim for the latter when I play Crossbell arc because the hetshit pisses me off the most in those games.
No. 373070
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>>373013>Not arguing with you, but I've seen people say there's a lot of technical terminology? Would it help to familiarize myself with any specific terms beforehand?That's mostly about the mythology and the magic system, which is nothing unseen and the same as in Jujutsu Kaisen, for example. The Russians again have a bunch of documents explaining it including a 30 page glossary. The russian translator is a Japanese history major iirc. If you're already interested in Japanese history, mythology and shintoism it's not that difficult and extremely enjoyable to see what Rosa does with it in-game. Most of the stuff that shows up in-game you can Google it.
>I'm worried about ruining it for myself if I read it before I am truly prepared. At the same time, I'm far too busy to ever be 'fully prepared,' so maybe I should just dive in. I appreciate the advice you've given, though.You're welcome, my
nonnie. And don't worry about it, I find it a shame the difficulty of this game is so overstated because I was similarly put off from playing the game for years because I didn't believe my Japanese skills were enough. I even started it by MTLing the russian translation like some suggested, kek. But once I started I realized if I was gonna MTL, might as well play it in japanese with MTL and dictionary assist anyway. Maybe it would be more difficult but on top of experiencing the original writing I'd be actively bettering my japanese, so I switched and I'm glad I did. Took me a long time
3 months to finish it with life etc. but it was a great learning experience and allowed me to experience an absolutely 10/10 amazing game.
It is starting to show its age though, having come out in 2011. The art is a bit wonky and the UI is quite old, and it does have some 2011-era tropes, but it's still kamige tier and Kyou is one of the best protagonists with the most personality and inner life despite looking like a generic uke. He's my son and I love him.
Hope you get to playing it one day nonna and
join the misakifag alliance. No. 373112
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>>373049I like estelle/joshua too and think it’s adorable, but weissmann/joshua ticks all my boxes in what I look for in a ship (also Joshua’s like my chew toy and I like seeing him suffer kek).
>Not sure if you're talking about Mueller/Olivier or Reane/Crow as the one ship fujos care about but I hate both. Crowrean, I like it but it’s safe yaoi and you have all the moids in the fanbase who are desperate for pussy “ship” it. Osborne/rean is where it’s at.
>Zero had the best M/M for me, I liked both Wazy/Wald and Lloyd/Randy. I always aim for the latter when I play Crossbell arc because the hetshit pisses me off the most in those games.Both of these are good. I like randy/wazy/lloyd a lot and love the thought of both of them corrupting lloyd from a cop into a slut. Also I fucking hate the hetshit in crossbell as well especially with elie and cecile, that was when it really went from a cozy jrpg to otaku pandering slop but that’s a topic for another day.
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>>372972I love unreliable protagonists, plus Tamamori is so retarded that he looks cute to me
outside of shitting his pants and eating vomit instead. Playing hashihime while trying to figure out what is the truth and what is Tamamori pulling stuff out of his ass was so fun ngl.
No. 373180
>>372843>rinko has good ideas but her execution is shit and all her games have that point where you can tell she got tired of working on it and started sprinting to the finish line. she needs some assistance.She's a doujin author who did most stuff alone, if anything it's impressive. Yeah Hashihime doesn't stick to the landing, but 80% is great at the end of the day.
>>372907It's because Tamamori has like legit flaws, even his brand of tsun felt refreshing and more because he's a legit pompous ass
>>372922>hate kawaseWhat the fuck
No. 373181
>>372963>That shouldn't be his reason for trooning out.It's actually a very common reasons. Teenagers boy and girls who experience attraction to the same genre often wish they could just be "the other genre" so their crush would feel attracted. I experienced it myself and I know gay dudes who felt the same.
It's why kids trooning out is child abuse and extremely fucked up, since kids and teen have a poor sense of sense and are very malleable.
The new NC visual novel actually features a whole subplot about it, where the character called Rei feels like he should be a woman so he can be "gay" and why trannies character are easier to get in JP media than two guys.
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>>373179Adelta ero is literal garbage, put down the pipe.
No. 373185
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>>372894>uuuc is weird but not in a super subversive way.It doesn't need to be. Something like Madoka can be subversive, because it's building upon a genre that is known as being cute, frilly fun for little girls. Toku, kaijuu and mecha shows already contain dark or adult themes and convoluted plots. The only way for UUUC to be subversive would be if it was the opposite of that - simplistic, sparkly setting, cute little boys in spandex being retarded and partaking in Pokemon tournaments with kaijuu perhaps? Who would even be the target audience for something like this (aside from shotafags)?
No. 373191
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>get excited because /fujo/ is active
>almost all the posts are the same barely literate schizo with shit taste spamming the thread
One of the mosr soul crushing experiences of being a lc user. Picunrel
No. 373196
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I really like cute sweet tops who are insatiable in bed, any manga/webtoons recs nonas?
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>>373183if i had to give a top 10 bl sex scenes of all time this one game would have the whole top 5 in a vise grip
No. 373198
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>>372933>I support the translator for playing it safe and not using tranny.But she totally missed the point by translating okama as 'drag queen'. How is Isshiki a 'drag queen' when he dresses like a man, looks like a man (broad shoulders), doesn't even wear make-up or long hair? Yet he gets called that again and again. How does it make any sense? And how can you use 'drag queen' as a slur in English? Just call him a fag and be done with it - it's not like you have to translate the same word in the exactly same way every time, because context maters a lot. It looks to me as if a censor swept through the final draft and replaced anything 'offensive' with PC culture words. Ironic coming from a company specialising in adult content. I guess gendies and their sympathisers shouldn't be even playing these games, because they act like children (or at least that's what MG is scared of - retards with arrested development throwing tantrums on twatter).
>Meanwhile, there is a side character that was a TIF, and she trooned out IMMEDIATELY after being raped by a piggy scrote. She was also a misogynist who described the rape as being "treated like a woman" cuz woman are just holes to rape amirite? It was so frustrating. Shirou refers to Sapphire as 'he' and I have no clue whether it was the same in the Japanese text or is MG censoring again. Because it would be so weird for his character to bash trannyfaggots on one hand and totally accept a girl's new-found boymodder identity on the other. It's so all over the place. Breaks my immersion.
>another side character who is a downright creep and probably a TIM with an intersection condition (claimed to be neither male or female and implied that they have a small dick)I don't think Uran is a TIM? You can see the tits in the love hotel scene and they look natural. Plus she uses a strap-on. I don't think any character sees her self-proclaimed micropenis - her boasting about what's not there might as well be her way of getting sexual attention and she's hypersexual. Shirou also would be calling Uran a trannyfaggot left and right if she was a TIM, but he doesn't.
>behavior is reddit incel tier, constantly making sexual jokes with everyone and being inappropriateActually the first character archetype that comes to my mind is the harem anime (usually) blonde bimbo that is super-aggressive in trying to get into the MC's pants and always using her big breasts to smother the guy.
> it looked like textbook grooming to meTextbook lesbian grooming, more like.
No. 373201
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>>373199you're reaching uncharted levels of shit taste. didn't even know meganehate was a thing.
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I'll remember this, MG. Autists here like to rage at JAST for switching the writing from the 3rd to the 1st person in Slow Damage, but MangaGamer does equally atrocious things.
No. 373207
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>>373195They cured my ham and sent me $300 on cashapp idk maybe all that sleep deprivation took its toll on your brain cells
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/losing-sleep-can-lead-brain-damage-scientists-warn No. 373209
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>>373199Unironically, I agree. I bullied Seiji extra hard because he was a retarded binoclard. Ending A was so satisfying. The moment I had a choice he didn't have glasses anymore, based parade for giving us the option to remove the atrocities.
No. 373211
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>>373206Where is my Shirou who would say
>I was raped by a trannyfaggotSasuga MG………
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>>373004Thanks! I'm watching it now!
No. 373213
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thread going to shit while the burgers are at work, somepony give us a good old fashioned controversial personality quiz to combat the uuultrac sperg's terrorism
or a ship version of the 'post your husbando and we'll make assumptions about you' thread
No. 373217
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>>373211>character arc is about internalised homophobia>erases homophobia in the translationTwitter clapped. Fuck you, MG, and, once again FUCK YOU.
How can anybody defend this? Why aren't more people mad?
No. 373222
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>>373213>to combat the uuultrac sperg's terrorismYou posted this on the wrong website and in the wrong thread.
Husbandofagging also has its own thread
>>>/m/211556 No. 373223
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>>373221Stop shitting up the thread with your policing attempts. Just ignore my posts if you don't like them. Can't be that hard.
>no1currOUT
No. 373224
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>>373221Relax, sis. Why are you getting so heated over some simple complaining about trannypandering translator shills?
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>>373231>>373230Just stop. You're being embarrassing. You also failed to read the thread.
No. 373233
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>>373224Perhaps because it hits too close to home for her kek.
No. 373236
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This infighting is stupid, look at this cute standee instead.
No. 373237
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>>373209Hell will be hot for you and that rat bastard Daichi
No. 373243
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>>373234>>373235You're the same shitter that bullied NuCarnival posters to another thread, aren't you. Do better.
(infighting) No. 373245
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I don't know what in the lover's quarrel is going on, I simply simp for this trannyhater homophobic homo.
No. 373246
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Worst BL you've read/watched?
I'm going with Sayonara Nanashi violin, gorgeous art but impressively retarded plot.
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>>373239>princely megane>selfless, gentle, moe but sometimes teasing to his bestie>smokes only to piss off his dad>takes 3 baths a day>every attempt at a relationship with a woman has failed because he set off their gaydars>get to watch his soul progressively get crushed by daily rapings in the game>wears a nipple chain everyday to his government job and becomes his former childhood bff's battered anal slut in bad end>pink hole>naturally hairless legs, pits, and assHe's the perfect man
No. 373253
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>>373249Amemiya has a fetish for meganes and I will never forgive him. He'd be perfect if he wasn't an ugly binoclard. Literally megane characters
trigger my autistic rage, kek. Would put them all in a blender and switch it on. Rn9 only redeems itself because you can torture him out of his mind.
same reason I can't stand Ryu in nty No. 373256
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>>373245He should have gotten with somebody better than Isshiki. I really was hoping for 'what if' scenarios in the other two chapters where Shou would hook up with different guys, including Shirou. Imagine the bullying.
(ban evading) No. 373259
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>>373255Maki is hot and has great tits. Ryu is ugly and is a megane. Maki is
emotionally challenged because he was kidnapped and raped by mexican cartels when he was 12. Ryu has no excuse for the way that he is.
Boo hoo my sister shut the fuck up, you don't know what real suffering is.
No. 373260
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>>373253Has Ryu not suffer enough for you, optosadistchan?
Shot in the head execution style, throat slit, subjected himself to progressively more obscene sexual harassment climaxing at a catheter being shoved down his dick in the blink of an eye all for the grind, then finds out the grind was in vain, one of the worst things you can get isekai'd as is a parade megane
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>>373263the king is built different i wasn't talking about him
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>>373260Kek nona. I actually cheered when he
got his throat cut for absolutely no reason, like that was so unnecessary and came out of nowhere. It was kinda funny. You can see they were playing with the megane sadism already in nty!!!, he's kind of a proto-Seiji. I'll say his only appeal is being innocent and getting used and abused by Haru, but in that aspect the
old man's route does it better and I like innocent Hiroshi more. At least Hiroshi has inner strength and has dignity even when he's being a slut
and dying. My ideal play through of NTY is Hiroshi>Maki>Kouichi and then stopping. The game is literally perfect then. Ryu remains unbothered and asexual the way he likes it.
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>>373266What cursed you with this megane hate? His appeal is being the perfect wife and closest thing to fuckable Rikuto, both were headed down the incel drain til they got their shit together for their siblings. Also his powerful kicks and sensitive pink nippu.
>Ryu remains unbothered and asexual the way he likes itBut he needs a nuclear family to put his maternal instincts to good use…
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I don’t think there’s any megane character that I feel strongly about. Except Togami, he’s fun.
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>>373270>that dioramaWow, I love female autism….
Just something in me that makes me violently despise a stoic but sensitive man wearing eyeglasses
except Kim Kitsuragi will admit. I also similarly hate men in suits, they're just too put together and sometimes they might even wear glasses which at that point is just going too far.
>But he needs a nuclear family to put his maternal instincts to good use…He can adopt the little girl and just be a happy, asexual single dad.
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>>373198Ayrt You do have a point that the drag queen does seem to imply that he dresses like a woman when he doesn't. I hate the word choice a little more now.
Regarding Shirou's transpandering: I wonder if it's a translator choice too, this is reminding me of Tamamori's naoshi affirmation and feels even worse since, like you said, shirou is an edgy mf who wouldn't do the pronoun sht. I played the steam version of uuuruc in English but I do know JP, maybe I'll pirate the JP version and check out that line sometime kek.
>>373224Real, I've noticed that every time someone casually brings up trannies as a part of any sort of criticism about a game, a number of anons (or maybe one anon and her army of alts) start absolutely malding over derailing blah blah even if the criticism is based on facts. In the last thread the nu carnival nonnas that got bullied out of the thread were also on the middle of discussing tiffanies shitting up their fandom experience right before they got booted. Very
susPicrel unrelated to this discussion
No. 373283
>>373280almost as if anons don't want to talk about trannies 24/7 365 here when there are already threads to contain that all over lc. deadass
sus behavior fr fr.
>>373276nta either but he's a "ugly in game cuter in fanart" character
No. 373285
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>>373276>she doesn't get itPlay Disco Elysium and find out. That ugly binoclard mongrel unironically has hordes of straight men falling in love with him. Somehow, his sex appeal was genetically engineered in a lab.
>>373280Anon must have been picrel kekk
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>>373199>>373209Based glasses-hating nonas.
I do actually like Seiji, but if you choose to keep the glasses on, you are wrong and I hope you are able to heal from whatever made you this way. No. 373287
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>Kaworu and Shinji fucked during the fade to black bedroom scene
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>>373275He needed haru-kun's magic dick to be happy and you know it
No. 373291
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Why's the thread so bad today
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>>373286You're objectively right and this is a high IQ take. The only correct answer is to yeet their glasses as soon as you can and leave them scrambling on the ground like pathetic worms.
No. 373293
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>>373290why when that dick is put to much better use
inside his not!dad No. 373295
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>>373280if they were actually bothered by tranny discussion simply because they're sick of it they would demand to stop bringing up games with canon trannies instead. (i'm using they/them pronouns as to not misgender this thread's resident aiden)
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>>373246There are a lot of answers I could give, but I'll say Wrong Night Stand. If the characters had an IQ above room-temperature, they could've resolved the conflict in 1/4 the time. The story introduces
the protagonist's fucked up and evil ex-boyfriend as a love rival. He's initially nice, but it turns out he's actually a secretly evil sociopath whose only hobby is humiliating others by dating them. I swear he was only introduced to make the main LI look better by comparison, which is a shame, because at least that guy was unintentionally funny with how over-the-top evil he was. The protagonist has the Webtoon Uke Phenotype, and the art is very flat and wooden.
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>>373293Ossan cute but lacks the tradwife factor, to the display hallway he goes
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>>373280shirou is referred to as identifying as third sex in japanese, i googled it since i wanted to know why they called him nonbinary in his english profile. he is really supposed to be ~in between~, i think.
No. 373359
>>373259Wasn't Ryu
raped by his female cousin and his sister by that cousin's dad?
No. 373375
>>373361he was cute but retarded a little bit and then he
died horribly>>373359yes, after his parents
died horribly. his sister didn't i think but
the uncle was a creep for sure so he left with her because he was paranoid she was going to and become depressed like him.
No. 373395
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>>373361Pain. That's what happened.
Why don't you want to play his route again? He was my favorite, so I think you're missing out (sorry in advance to the very dedicated NTY anons. You don't have to tell me I have shit taste. I know. I am aware. I cannot change this.). No. 373403
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>>373395Nta he was also my favourite
before the dadson masterpiece route so I support you,
nonnie. Hiroshi is one of the most whorish ukes in a BL and seeing him slowly transform into a JAV star was incredible. That seiyuu seriously talented, kek. But I also like loud ukes which might be unpopular. Excited to play Azuma's game later this week. Any nonnies who are gonna buy Paradise?
No. 373405
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>>373403I already played paradise in JP and wrote reviews about it so nah. I may have bought it just to support devs (I'm a crazy Azuma simp) but I don't trust JAST after their buttslut bullshit with slow damage. Paradise is probably going to be less affected by any added vulgarity since the characters are potty mouthed in the first place, but I read the post of a blogger who played the game early that they put stuff like "boomer" "zoomer" etc in the text so I'm not hopeful.
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>>373395i love piroshi but the problem is his competition is so stacked i rank him last by default. he's still the cutest.
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>>373405Damn, really? I thought since it wasn't being translated by that obese Taisho x Alice narcissistic pickme trannylator it would be fine. What she did with slow damage was so bad it was almost comical. I never cared much for paradise so I didn't go through the effort of playing it in JP so I'm open to playing the localisation even if it's by loocalizers. I'd be pissed if they ruined a game I actually cared about, though.
Not to deanonymize you, but hope I get to read your review on it after I play. Also if that's yours, impressive collection.
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>>373280>maybe I'll pirate the JP version and check out that line sometime kekThanks nonna!
>Real, I've noticed that every time someone casually brings up trannies as a part of any sort of criticism about a game, a number of anons (or maybe one anon and her army of alts) start absolutely malding over derailing blah blah even if the criticism is based on facts.It only proves that we have a gendie in this thread, perhaps even as a mod. It's one thing to get upset if troonism is brought up out of nowhere and causes 60+ off-topic replies, but if it's related to the thread (BL media), it's absolutely not derailment. The T brigade is invading and infiltrating more and more online spaces, sometimes in insidious ways. Just keep that in mind.
>>373283I do want to shit on troons and pooners whenever an opportunity presents itself. Your manipulation tactics are very middle school.
No. 373425
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>>373296Which games again? Surely not UUUC where okama rapists proliferate. I doubt Slow Damage is painting trannies in a light they'd like to be portrayed in either.
(ban evading) No. 373428
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>>373257That's boring though.
I want Shirou to call Shou all kinds of names, like
dick-addicted pansyschlong-twisting poufbum-cruising nancesemen-slurping shirtlifterT-bagging poncefairy butt pirateshaft-licking bumderdisease-ridden fruitrod-sucking catamitequeerdo friend of Dorothytush-wiggling benderfaglord anal assassincock-gurgling poofterprick-appreciating flamerpozzloaded buggererbuns-humping gaywadmanhole sausage riderwang-obsessed sodomiteveteran rear admiralcum-guzzling battyboy(ban evading) No. 373446
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>>373442Nevermind, it's a little different from what I remember but I was able to find the post.
>>373444It's one thing to just put he/they pronouns in your bio and call it a day. I went through her whole blog and there were just way too many pro troon posts for me to believe this person isn't pro troon herself.
No. 373447
>>373446I'm laughing at this typical tumblrtard reading comprehension
>Adelta: bizarre tranny fetish shit sprinkled in everywhere. Isshiki is still third gender by the end of the route.>Rei: route is about rejecting gender ideology and accepting he's just a gay manOf course they wouldn't get it.
No. 373448
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>>373446>>373442It's this post
>>>/m/298470 btw.
Never knew LC was so popular to be mentioned on tumblr, let alone make somebody seethe over media posts.
>I went through her whole blog and there were just way too many pro troon posts for me to believe this person isn't pro troon herself.Remember when the fujo hate came solely from ignorant moids and online trolls? Good times.
No. 373450
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>>373442>I also believe the lowercase ntyfag is a tifno, you're just a weirdo. i'm the artfag who came up with and drew those stupid gijinkas, picrel, as well as a really shitty ms paint PPP mouse edit that was the op pic of a shoeonhead thread years ago. never been public on any form of social media and i hate troons and adeltas tifkino games, good luck on the next faildox.
No. 373454
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What do people think of dick redraws?
No. 373459
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Are there any VNs that are majority male cast, but neither BL, otome or dating sim? Particularly if the characters are highly shippable with each other. Help a casual out, nonnies.
No. 373460
>>373457but you do the same thing, is this like a confession you're projecting on me? dug up my og wig0nhead post from 6 years ago lol
>>>/snow/537463 was already 18 when i made it
No. 373461
>>373454I'm am against them even when they're good because they slow down the scanlation process and they are not drawn by the mangaka. I'm not reading yaoi to masturbate or see dick fanart. The better I know the artist the goofier the redraws look.
I don't even really like it when the sfx are redrawn. Just leave the art alone and put an asterisk there with a translation.
No. 373464
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Kobayashi is so much of a wasted character. He has a lot going for him (police officer, Orange operative, husband & father, homo in love with Shou), but he doesn't get paired with anybody. Meanwhile such a nothing character like Isshiki gets the spotlight in chapter 2. The choice of what to focus on and what to relegate to side materials is baffling.
>>373454I read it as
>dick rewardsand got too excited for a second.
(ban evading) No. 373468
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>>373463>>373459if anon does go the josei gacha route
>paralive (has a design by harada herself)>hypmic (hifumi, doppo, ramuda, etc. gay game)>twst (yana made, lots of covert degeneracy and shota shipbait)are all great for fujos. if you want a better story (depending on the arc) and heavier fujopandering but 50/50 m/f split cast, try onmyoji and id:v. most of the players are women (fujos who came because of the popular ships) and the men play for the gameplay, not waifus.
No. 373472
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>>373470then call sdfag one too to make it up to me
No. 373473
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>>373464Nonna, I like you but you're gonna get a permaban at this point.
Anyway, CAGE is a kino game and I hope they finish with the remake soon so I can replay it.
No. 373477
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>>373472Ok. But sdfag is not just any tif, she is the tumblr tif in question. This is true because they both like taku from slow damage and hashihime. Picrel shows her pathetic internalized misogyny that is so common among n+cslop fans.
I love your art btw I'm sorry for letting my retarded baiting tendency get the best of me No. 373478
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>>373475The OST was literally peak, I'm impressed it's all freeware and still listen to it regularly. The doujin crustiness of the art was gr8 but half of the time they all looked so fugly it does take some time getting used to, kek. I also like the art in open more than in close. I'm excited for the seiyuu, I hope they can find a guy who speaks Kansai-ben. Who was your best boy? I love a stupid yankee so Gen was my favourite. It's been a decade since I've played the game though, not sure how it's aged.
No. 373479
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>>373450NTA but I'm fucking losing it at your picrel and I forgive you for being a Ryufag. Are you the one who posts in the rate your art thread? Your nty boys are cute and you are funny as fuck.
of course Haru would be a terrorist kek No. 373508
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>>373479yes thats me and thank you.
also i'm a harufag and makifag mainly but i like them all, everyone has been my favorite at some point.>>373477kek thank you too nona. i'll try to hide my posting style from now on.
No. 373511
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>>373478I know right? One time I submitted gen's theme as a town tune to a random literal who animal crossing wild world lets player KEK he wondered what it was from in one video and said it sounded familiar, felt a little guilty but was laughing my ass off. I know it's uggo but I admittedly adore that precise mix of intentionally weird and edgy and how to draw manga gakuen handsome proportions. Gen was my fav too, but I also love Kujo and Nitta. In close, Ishimatsu but I'm pretty sure I never finished it.
No. 373513
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nona from another thread was commenting on Azuma moans so here is a recording I made a while ago, I love Netoru and his 5 minute long moaning so much
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>>373513…i need to cool off
No. 373515
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>>373513That was me and I kiss you, nonna. Can't wait to play this on Friday even if it's through JASTslop lenses.
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>what did they mean by this
Slightly off putted by this official translation, but I know this was very much a ship back in the day
No. 373523
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>>373518Paradise!
>>373420Yeah it's my collection, thanks nona!
No. 373529
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>>373523That's a beautiful collection and I have mad respect for a fellow BLVN merch hunter.
One time while travelling in Japan I took the train 2 hours out of Tokyo to go pick up a BLVN tapestry at the most lost random madarake for an insane price, kek No. 373534
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>>371545I wanna play these but haven't gotten around to it yet. Here's my first impression based solely on looks.
No. 373548
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>>373459The other anons are right about the gachas being your best bet, but if you want traditional VNs, I have some recommendations. Ace Attorney is probably the closest to what you want. There's a massive fujo fanbase, and the artist even drew yaoi doujins in the past. There's also ENIGMA, which is a visual novel in which all of the routes are platonic (so it's not a dating sim), and most of the routes focus on the close friendship between two men. I've seen a lot of people complain that it's basically a BL game with the romance taken out. I will warn you that
the MC does sleep with a female character in one of the routes, but it's not shown, their relationship goes nowhere, and it feels like the writers went, "we swear he's straight!" Mamiya: A Shared Illusion of the World's End is almost exactly what you describe, and its sequel is probably similar, but I haven't tried it. I didn't like it, so I didn't bother with the sequel, but there's nothing wrong with it on an objective level, and you'd probably like it. Finally, I've seen anons on here recommend Aya Akashiya Ayakashino. I haven't played it and cannot comment, but from my understanding, there's no explicit romance. I'm not 100% on this, though. I could list some galge and otome games where I personally ship two of the male characters, but that's neither helpful nor what you're asking for kek.
No. 373556
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Playing Omerta rn, JJ blushing face so cute I want to nom
No. 373565
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>>373508>i'm a harufag and makifag mainly but i like them all, everyone has been my favorite at some pointReal, the whole cast is so good I can't help but loving them all too. Hiroshi's route made actually sob, Maki's route also made me bawl
and I still consider harumaki the endgame because they're the most compatible couple ossan's route did things to me I cannot mention to anyone except my therapist. Ryu, well >TKD. But Haru was my favourite of them all and he's still my number 1 favourite character out of any BL.
I tend to like main characters more than the LIs and Haru is probably the most developed mc out there. Not even parade could top themselves with Daichi and Tasuku,
one was more boring than the next sorry even though they did interesting shit with them in the story.
MAGA!Maki makes me kek because he's basically an honorary mexican No. 373569
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>>373565Samefag my favourite BLVN mcs are, in order
>Haru nty>Kyou mebiusline>Gian lucky dog 1 >Tamamori hashihime Haven't played Azuma's game yet so looking forward to it.
What's your favorite BLVN mcs, nonas?
No. 373575
>>373566AYRT and
I'm actually a massive fan of Subahibi (understatement), which is why I played it kek. It sounded so similar, and before release, it was tagged as denpa. Can I ask why you liked the sequel so much? I was so, so hyped for the first one since the announcement, and I found the it very disappointing.
I liked the part with the four new characters in the house, but I couldn't care less about the main guys. I wasn't going to waste my time with the sequel, but your
Subahibi comparison has baited me into giving it a try despite my better judgment.
No. 373578
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>>373575>Can I ask why you liked the sequel so much?The vast majority of the plot is in the sequel, even calling it a sequel though feels kind of like a cheat since it's more just where the story actually explores it's characters and themes that were set up in downfall. Doomsday dreams is referred to as a chapter in it after all, rather than a sequel, VNDB just lists it differently because they're sold separately and there was a huge gap inbetween releases (but I got the VN for free from my friend so nicely gifting it to me so it doesn't matter lol).
One of the big reasons that doomsday dreams is where the VN truly shines is because it mainly focuses on the people in the house rather than Natsume's friends (though they're obviously all important characters) a lot of the bad ends with them are incredibly interesting and the way they play off of Natsume's friends is really well done. The true end broke my heart into a million pieces too (in a good way).
Main criticism I have to give IS that downfall is majority set up for the themes and plot of the VN while the majority of the meat is in doomsday dreams. Also Minato is just a fucking terrible character with the worst routes by far, he's not even an important character to the overall plot particularly outside of some body shit and Natsume wanting to fuck him when he's crossdressing.
Overall I think it has an overall stronger ending than Subahibi, but Subahibi's first half (especially IMOI) is some of the best stuff in denpa VNs so I don't think it gets to that level per se? I'd still continue reading it though, it has a lot of really fun twists and anytime Samejima and Arisugawa are on screen it's great.
No. 373580
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>>373569>What's your favorite BLVN mcs, nonas?In Order:
4. Rei from Tokyo Onmyoji
3. Shirou from Uuultra C
2. Haru from No Thank You
1. Tamamori from Hashihime
No. 373588
>>373569Azuma from paradise
Kyo from taisho mebiusline
Michael from shingakkou
Gian from luckydog
Keichi from omega vampire
Tama from hashihime
Juro from ultra c
Tomoaki from hadaka
No. 373593
>>373565you'd be surprised by how many protrump latinos there are as ironic as it sounds kekk plus he's a gun autist so it just makes sense
>one was more boring than the next sorrycry tasuku was so moe and it makes sense why he was written the way he was due to his
biological programming to be a kamikaze drone but he really is their konoe. daichi is like hiroshi but evil and a hoe. we'll see if they can top haru, but he ticks so many boxes for me I don't even know if he can be topped for my personal tastes anymore. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
and I consider
ryu endgame mostly because I want him
, the brothers, and the little girl to be happy. it would also just be nice for haru to have something to come back to besides
piyoshi's greedy hole </3 but maki is the soulmate and they'd lead a more interesting life together so tl;dr which I prefer depends on if I'm in the mood for boring domestic or nostalgia bumping to born to die and ultraviolence kek
>>373569>haru-kun>inga dystopia no ou>rei tokyo onmyoji>obligatory kyou and gianhonorable mention to cage konno, loved his personality (in most routes at least) stupid, cute, and funny
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>>373593samefag, one thing I do really like about hiroshi's end is the idea that
haru turned him gay forever and he ends up saving his virginity for him after all like a good boy kek
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>>373529>>373420That's haiiros artist right? Glad that she can finally do art for a blvn. She seems to really like blvns especially paradise and occasionally draws fanarts of her favorite ships.
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>>373402That's part of it, but I also liked watching his innocence get destroyed by the narrative, especially
near the ending when he has the gun in his face. Absolutely kino CG. I also really enjoyed how he served as a foil to Haru
especially after Haru's true nature is revealed near the end; Hiroshi was the only one of the main cast who truly didn't suspect anything, so I love the aspect of how badly it must've hurt, as well as the contrast of their respective worldviews. They're basically polar opposites, and their relationship truly could only work for that brief moment they spent together, which I think is fitting. In my opinion, he kind of represents something Haru could never have or has never had. I felt like Hiroyuki had much more space to be emotionally broken through the story's events, being relatively naive, whereas the other characters already had their respective issues and had some idea of what was really happening before shit hit the fan. I enjoy watching cute little guys have their world shattered in real time kek.
>>373407It's actually impressive how good the cast is; I could see an argument for any of the 4 being someone's favorite, and I'd completely understand.
>>373403Pops was a very close second favorite, so extremely based taste.
He also kind of fits the 'having his spirit broken' aspect I enjoy. Strongly agree about the VA. I actually looked him up after finishing the VN, and was very disappointed to see he's mostly done minor roles.
>ParadiseI kept telling myself I had no intention of buying Paradise, but I wound up pre-ordering it anyways kek. I don't know much about the guys' personalities, but I'm hoping it's good despite the mixed reviews.
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>>373450(redrew my cosplay with added head lump, didn't want to bump art thread for this sorry. now I will leave.)
No. 373656
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>>373578Wow, thank you for being so thorough! This was incredibly helpful. So, I actually played the first part way back in the year it initially released in English (It was an instant buy and I played it a couple of months later). I remember the first chapter
ended with a 'to be continued' or something after the blue-haired one turned out to be dead?? Sorry, it's been almost three years. In other words, I get what you're saying about it being more of a Part 1 and Part 2 type situation. It's very difficult for me to think of it that way because of the massive gap, but I'll try to go in with that expectation.
>downfall is majority set up for the themes and plot of the VN while the majority of the meat is in doomsday dreamsI remember the greater aspects of the plot (the four boys' main struggles and the events inside the house), but not specifics. Do you think I need to replay the first part to enjoy the second? I really hope not because this is the only VN I've fallen asleep while playing kek.
>Minato is just a fucking terrible characterStrong agree. I couldn't stand him. I felt annoyed by Natsume, as well, but he wasn't as bad.
>Overall I think it has an overall stronger ending than Subahibi, but Subahibi's first half (especially IMOI) is some of the best stuff in denpa VNsCompletely understandable, and this gives me a realistic expectation for the story.
The mere comparison to Subahibi is the easiest way to convince me to read or watch anything, so I probably will buy Doomsday Dreams. I know I won't love it as much as Subahibi, but anything with a similar experience is totally worth a try. No. 373668
>>373454I always think about that time Rainbow Dick scanlations or whatever their group name is (you know the one) was all "our artist did SUCH a good job redrawing these dicks that we just had to leave them unrainbowed!!" And the dicks were some of the worst redraws I'd ever seen. The entire comment section was begging them to put the rainbows back for once kek either a gigabrained move from a team tired of the usual complaints or really embarrassing for that redrawer
If you can't match the line quality and shading texture of the rest of the art work, don't even try IMO.
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>>373593>which I prefer depends on if I'm in the mood for boring domestic or nostalgia bumping to born to die and ultraviolence kekKek nonna, absolutely real.
I liked Tasuku
less than Haru and Daichi but he's basically
a shounen fight autist so there's not so much inner life going on in there except being a stupid loyal horndog. Lkyt was good for male ryona
I liked the roidpig's route NGL but nty still manages to make all the boys suffer so much more in depth, truly kino.
>>373641Agree with everything you said about Hiroshi.
The end of his route with the gun CG is so extremely fucking sad any way you cut it, it made me cry so hard I had to take a break, kek. It really did feel like Haru was being confronted with something that he thinks he could never have, the capacity for love. But despite what Haru believes about himself from the rest of the game it's clear that it's not true. Haru is indeed capable of love even if it's in his own way in the confines of his upbringing.
>Strongly agree about the VA. I actually looked him up after finishing the VN, and was very disappointed to see he's mostly done minor roles. Same nonna, what a squandered talent smh. It's actually ironic that the real breakout star from parade games was Netoru when by all intents and purposes, it should have been Hiroshi's VA first.
>>373645This is the only good palestine conflict fanart, twittertards learn
No. 373685
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>>373613Did you play haiiro, nonna? I kept an eye on it but school settings don't interest me at all. I haven't heard anything about it on whether it's decent and/or interesting. Art looks good at least so props to her.
No. 373687
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>>373656>Do you think I need to replay the first part to enjoy the second?If you look up a recap you'll probably be fine, Ryou and Keito are pretty important but the other two (who have the shittier routes) aren't as important.
>I felt annoyed by Natsume, as well, but he wasn't as bad.He's not a protagonist for everyone but I like him since he's cute.
>but anything with a similar experience is totally worth a try.I think it'll fill a similar hole if you're absolutely craving something like subahibi! I'd love to hear your thoughts on doomsday dreams if you decide to read and finish it as well!
No. 373689
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>>373686Shows up in UuuC. It's also the dog's face
No. 373725
>>373659yes nona thank you! its a crossover with the
edgy hetaliafied israel and palestine boy couple from one of our old ai threads kek
No. 373746
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>>373743Yep, that's from a recent merch collab
https://twitter.com/fallengodorochi/status/1778937760231104838 Whole dev team is full of fujocoomers and they've had internal drama explicitly over shipwars like 30 times. Have some more official art kek.
No. 373789
>>373685It's coming out in a month about! I don't like school settings too but I enjoyed shingakkou and sweet pool. Haiiro looks interesting too. Also cute photo
nonny!
No. 373796
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>>373789Kek, of course I haven't heard anything about it then. Are you gonna play it nona? I'm debating ordering it
on physical cause I like having physical VNs tomorrow the new holicoworks game also comes out and I'm already reserving my next 2 months to get completely absorbed. I got my eyes on ginger guy with braid, he looks like a misaki type kek
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>>373700Have fun meganestacy
best order to do the routes in for the story is Hiroshi>Maki>Koichi>Ryu No. 373815
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>>373459library of neversista, but there's no tl that i know of
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>>373825
Did you wait out your ban nonna?
No. 373837
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all this blvn talk makes a bit curious since ive been only a manga and novelfag, how should i navigate bl vns? ive tried the "classics"(mostly nc+ stuff and a bit of cage) and would love to read more
No. 373844
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>>373837I am mostly into VNs and novels (some manga, but I'm not as into it), so hopefully, my advice will be useful. In terms of VN publishers/companies, you have some decent choices, even assuming you want English only. As a lot of nonas (including me) in this thread have discussed, Parade makes really good VNs. Right now, they have Room No. 9, Lkyt, and No, Thank You. In my personal opinion, their works usually have a strong focus on horror and drama. Most of them are kind of psychological, and NTY is my personal favorite of their games. NTY is great if you like drama with a bit of mystery thrown in, and it has the strongest cast of Parade's VNs. Lkyt is great if you want fantasy (love the atmosphere and setting), but the character writing isn't as strong. RN9 is really good, but it doesn't have as much focus on plot, so I'd save that one for later because it's a harder sell. Minor thematic spoilers, but
a lot of the time, Parade's games don't have happy endings or will have a strong element of tragedy, so I'd approach with caution if that's something you dislike. ADELTA makes excellent VNs. Right now, only Hashihime of the Old Book Town and UUUltraC are available in English, but there are a few more in JP that you might enjoy. I recommend both, but I especially recommend Hashihime because it's my personal favorite BL game. It focuses more on mystery and is a bit easier to approach than Parade's games because it has a broader appeal. I love the protagonist, and if you're into literary references, you'll probably have a great time. Be warned that subsequent routes are generally regarded as much worse than the first, but I personally had fun with them (the first route is significantly longer than the others; I'm bad at estimating, but it probably at least 1/3 of the game). I'd advise going in with the expectation that the later routes might not be to your taste. UUUltraC is a little less approachable because it's more… abstract, for lack of a better term. I enjoyed it, but I can see why some nonas were bothered by it. It has a bit of an unusual structure because it focuses on three different couples rather than individual routes. It's sort of an action/sci-fi story, but I'd recommend reading it after Hashihime because I think it's a little less approachable. I'll also shill Tokyo Onmyoji because it's genuinely fantastic. It's an urban fantasy VN, and I really like that all of the characters were proper adults in their late 20s/early 30s rather than college students or in their early 20s. It feels a bit unusual, and I can't emphasize enough how great the protagonist is. The art is a little goofy, but if you can look past it, it's an extremely solid VN with great character writing and unique routes. I'm mostly recommending popular VNs, but I think most of these are great place to start if you haven't experienced much of the medium. I'm really sorry if this didn't answer your question!
No. 373856
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>>373837I second everything nona above said, and I also think parade games are a great starting point. They're the best studio out there right along with n+C because they're also a sister branch of a big eroge studio, CLOCKUP. The director for parade, Amemiya, was the same guy who made euphoria and fraternite. You can definitely see their influence in their BLVNs. As a result they can pull from a range of talent and resources like Haru's seiyuu who's pretty active in eroge. If you're familiar with Netoru he started doing BL roles with Room no. 9. The artists for parade are also the lead artists for CLOCKUP games.
If you can venture in the untranslated genre, Shingakkou and Taisho Mebiusline are kamige tier. Probably the best games I've ever played and both rank in my top 5. They're both from 2011 so they're showing their age a bit but it doesn't even matter, Shingakkou is drawn in the typical 80s BL manga style which makes it really unique. Mebiusline is similar to Hashihime as it's set in the Taisho period and has heavy literary and historical references to the era, so if you like Hashihime you'll love Mebius.
Then there's more recent doujin fun stuff like Nie no Machi, which is basically what if we took the typical otome trope of
the heroine having something super special that makes all the guys wanna fuck her but turned the mc into a guy, kek. It's pretty funny and also has a historical theme around the Showa era. Not mindblowing but the characters are extremely memorable and fun.
No. 373859
>>373796I'm getting both kek. I hope ooe delays though because I'll be broke for a month. Physical versions are always better but the shipping fees and customs prevent me from doing so I hate my shithole.
I'll do haiiro first probably because I know I'm going to suffer with nakajos writing. Writing is based regardless. They should translate the holikworks games.
No. 373862
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>>373859kek nonna, same. It kinda hurts seeing Jast sell paradise for like 18 dollars when the original price for most VNs is like 90k yen nowadays
or 120k if you get special editions. Back in 2017 that was a pretty penny in yen.
When you get around to playing haiiro do post your thoughts in here nona. I'm curious if it's decent and/or good. Also Ooe is definitely getting delayed there's no way kurosawa can finish it in time kek an autmun release also suits it better tbh
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>>373862I mean if it's for a coomzoomie translation this price makes sense kek. I still want it to sell well even though i hate jast with passion, because pilslash is my favorite bl company and they're a little broke atm.
Yen is pretty shit atm? I remember when 9k yen were around 80 bucks but now it's around 65. Still blvns are expensive but it's been so long since we got one, so i'm gonna stfu and give them my money. After ooe we"ll probably get the next one in a year or so. Tokyo gentou might take more time and cage remake…idk nonna I hope it's not dead really looking forward to it.
For sure! I got a feeling that it's going to be good and wishing it's psychological enough.
Also looking very forward to freeware doujinge blvn releases,kikai densen and necromanticism.
No. 373901
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>>373871>they're a little broke atmNTA but do you have any more information about this? Are they in serious danger of going out of business?
>>373449Late but this was a good post, and you worded it better than I could have. Just remember, no matter how pissed you felt, at least you don't feel the need to lie to your literally-who followers to justify browsing /fujo/. Incredibly pathetic behavior to be so ashamed of a harmless activity you enjoy that you feel the need to portray yourself as superior to people with the exact same interests as you. It's okay to say you just enjoy something and find it fun to see other anons' opinions on BL media instead of trying to make up such a weird excuse.
No. 373923
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>>373871>I still want it to sell well even though i hate jast with passion, because pilslash is my favorite bl company and they're a little broke atm.Mood. Hobby is already niche and dead as it is, cool-B almost went under recently. I hate giving jast my cuckbucks but I'll do it to support pil/slash with their royalties.
It's a bit of an exceptional year with like 3 BLVNs coming out at the same time, I also hope cage remake doesn't go under love&des have been pretty quiet lately.
>kikai densenSupreme taste nonna. I've also got my eye on it. The other one I haven't heard of but from the vndb description mc
sounds like a necro so I'm definitely adding it to the list, kek.
I miss you Giulio…If haiiro is psychological I'm definitely buying it, so I'm curious what you're gonna say. Despite being happy at new bobge everything about it looks so boring and cookie-cutter my best hope is that it's a massive psyop
like Shingakkou No. 373927
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>>373925Gacha were the death knoll of VNs and actual games in general. Even actual console games were absolutely colonized by gachaslop mechanics what with microtransactions, lootboxes, "forever" support and the release of unfinished games. VNs which are basically a book with audio are slow games and have no monetization aspect at all besides the first purchase and occasional merch. Even quality galge can't compete against shit like genshin and manage to gain notoriety. It's a shame because it's my favourite medium, it's why I make a point to support as many blvn creators as possible, doujin or otherwise.
On the bright side, for a long time it seemed as if gacha were going to be eternal but even nowadays gacha games are getting the plug pulled on them after 2 or 3 years in operation, which is starting to make people unhappy. I'll be glad when the gachaslop model finally dies but I don't think that will happen without legal intervention (which is a bad thing). The gaming space is already super concentrated and starting to look like Disney, western or otherwise.
No. 373935
>>373932Gambling is already illegal in Japan but you wouldn't know it from the hordes of pachinko parlors. That's the thing, pachinko is not legally classified as gambling. Laws banning gambling or forms of gambling in gacha games have a really poor track record of being effective first because all laws are local, so without global political will to implement the same rules in a majority of countries they have little effect on cross-barrier shit like internet games. Germany tries, and as a result a bunch of games aren't available in Germany which just makes Germans pissed and drives up VPN use. Second, people will just find ways around the law's loopholes. Prohibition in the US also didn't stop anything and led to the development of organized crime which became an even worse problem than the one prohibition tried to cure. It's similar when it comes to gacha games and broad-scope gacha bans. And if they're not broad-scope, the aforementioned loopholes come into play again.
The best course of action would be for gacha models to become so unprofitable the entire industry collapses and the industry starts rebuilding itself. We're already seeing this collapse in the western gaming sphere and sadly, a bit in the VN sphere. Thankfully VNs don't cost millions of dollars to make so even small studios which get maybe a thousand sales per title have managed to stay afloat sofar, though I doubt they will last much in this coming economy.
No. 373959
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>>373957NTA but due to the way information is revealed, the order that anon listed is the best for experiencing the plot. In my opinion (I am not one of the NTY experts, but I did read the whole VN),
Koichi and Maki's order could be flipped if you really have a preference between them (I'd still advise against it, though). Ryu should be done last because he feels like the true route, and it puts a nice cap on the whole story. He really feels the most conclusive, and there's a lot of information that comes out in the routes preceding it to set it up. Hiroyuki should absolutely be done first for tonal/introductory reasons. His is the best for a first playthrough for reasons I can't explain due to spoilers. I really can't imagine playing in a different order, as the routes build on each other, and you slowly uncover information piece-by-piece. Some other anon might have a different perspective, though.
No. 373962
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>>373959I concur with this anon except that
I don't suggest inversing Maki and Kouichi's route, playing Maki before Kouichi is essential for the proper buildup of the story. Kouichi's route is the "meatier" route and a bit of a climax to the story, while Ryu is the comedownone might say
the aftercare kek. Also you'll enjoy Hiroshi a lot if you've got your eyes set on Ryu.
No. 373978
>>373964As long as it makes money.
On the bright side, gachaslop seems to be competing with each other out of business, there's only a limited amount of cash even the whaliest of whales has to spend on mobage rolls or live service battle pass or whatever. Eventually those studios will go under or be forced to make other types of games.
No. 373991
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>>373957I'm late, but I second everything the other nonas said
No. 374082
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It's probably a very short book, but I'm happy that this exists.
No. 374084
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>>374082Literally the display that came out for the release of the book has the majority of them kek.
No. 374085
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If there is one thing I'm deeply unsatisfied with in UUUltraC it's the ending. Freaking pedestrian 'and then their powers were gone forever, two timelines merged and the world was back to normal". Such an easy, unimaginative cop-out and destroys chances for a sequel. So much cool shit could have been done with the setting in side materials, yet you throw it all out of the window, because…the prospect of eternal conflict and life not being an easy ride for your characters makes you feel uncomfortable? If you write crazy shit in your story, commit till the end and avoid cliche endinqs especially. And in this particular case people will accuse you of plaqiarisinq Concrete Revolutio too. Fuck 'normal' life and fuck your normal life SoL 'they lived happily ever after'.(still ban evading, still avatarfagging)
No. 374087
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>>373927It's depressing but I feel like gacha has taken over most fandoms spaces as a whole, we probably have a while before it has less of a huge grip on everything.
No. 374089
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>>374088What character would you want to see have a figure made of them? Series be damned and type of figure be damned, anything goes.
I think something like this Mononoke figure with Tamamori would be sick as fuck.
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>>373837>>373844>https://vndb.org/g2002is very helpful.
>>374086The greatest /m/eta anime ever made.
>>373927People will start appreciating offline games more I hope.
No. 374099
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>>374087The thing I hate about gacha is that, no matter how good the story is, it won't last forever. Yeah, you can document it on YouTube or something, but it's not the same as having a complete visual novel that you can go back to and experience again. I have a feeling it'll eventually kill the industry, and even the extremely successful studios will move on to gacha. I think there will still be some indie VNs, but it'll never go back to the way it was.
>>373927Agree with everything you wrote except for
>for a long time it seemed as if gacha were going to be eternal but even nowadays gacha games are getting the plug pulled on them after 2 or 3 years in operation, which is starting to make people unhappyThe problem is that those unhappy people just move on to the next thing and forget all about their dissatisfaction. I want to be optimistic, but so many big-name VN companies (not even BLVNs, but more generally) are moving toward gacha.
No. 374106
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>>374103after seeing them mess around with microtransaction heavy mobage with clean dishes and that other game + the success of nucani I wouldn't be surprised if they ever tried making a real gacha with the chiral mori style chibis battling or something. tennenouji just did it with friendly lab too.
>>374089anyone, anything, I'm just sick of acrylics. towa figure with removable veil would be neat though.
No. 374121
>>374114No reason not to? I've already had otps from series made by men, I don't pick what I read purely based on the sex of the author.
Top 4 male bl writers:
>Himaruya>Noda>Amemiya>ArakiTop 2 bl writers with schizophrenia
>Furuya Usamaru>Hadaka Shitsuji man No. 374122
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Fujos win yet again
No. 374125
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>>374085I wasn't wild about the ending, either, but I really didn't want a sequel (I liked the game; I just have a strong opposition to sequels). I liked what was done thematically with Juurou's ending, but I do agree it was way too happy overall. I think it should've ended more ambiguously. >>374114Giving an example could have helped. I guess I would; there were men on the staff of games like Lamento, after all, so I don't see why manga would be any different. I also think it's just one of those, "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's a duck," type situations.
>>374122Fujos are so powerful for consistently keeping at least two yaoi games at the top of JAST's list year-round. I don't know why localization companies aren't fighting each other for licenses to more yaoi games, considering how well they sell.
No. 374129
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>>374126Yaoi Jesus is powerful
No. 374143
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>>374139immitation is the highest form of shillery. if it makes it to cool-b, its BL.
No. 374145
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>>374144stubborn as ever, sdchan.
No. 374147
>>374145I just think it's a huuuuge stretch, like for one we don't even know if Fuchii Kabura has played NTY (which is why I got curious for the source in the first place) and for two the games are barely even in the same demographic with SD being way more traditional while NTY was specifically going for a VN written in the style of an eroge for men.
Like Ryuu and Fujieda both have sex slave sisters, so I guess if we're saying that sex slave imoutos are a copyrighted idea then both games are shilling every rape eroge ever.
No. 374160
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>>374152>it's a top 20 best selling bl gameBLVNs are a niche within a niche, it's not like getting into the top 20 is terribly hard.
>it was never made for menThis I disagree with. I think the game definitely had a gay male audience in mind
>wait til you hear about what erolab did to their bl gamesI don't play mobile games.
>>374156Kek
No. 374162
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>JAST's website is so shit that my payment didn't go through due to errors and now I'm having to jump through 10,000 hoops and wait around
I just want to read about the funny abusive Matsuda…
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>>374160>your picrel: excatly what I just said re: bl game that incorporates eroge trends to make the sex scenes not suckand that's how they managed to mog every single h scene in sd combined with a single handjob
No. 374167
>>374120>>374124I'm not trying to start an argument, but I'm genuinely curious: if something fulfilled the conventions of the genre, but was written by a man, would you still consider it 'not BL?' Also, do you consider scrote-y games written by women focusing on a male player character romancing girls to be something other than galge? For example, I consider Gore Screaming Show to be a galge even though it's written by a woman. Same thing with Nekopara, Eiyuu*Senki, and Sengoku Rance. I don't think that's a controversial opinion, but do you believe something different? Also, are otome games written by men such as Bustafellows not otome games? Similarly, at what point does it stop being BL (especially in the instance of VNs)? For example, Lamento was written by a woman, but the director was a man, as was the producer. I'm only asking because I don't understand this perspective, but I'm not trying to change your mind or anything. I agree 90% of stuff written by men does not qualify for the label, but I don't understand why it COULDN'T qualify.
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>>374198You don't have to bait so hard to get our attention,
nonnie No. 374247
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It's frustrating that many BL VNs from small developers only get a Steam release after being licensed in English. Since I'm boycotting Steam. I wanted to check out Akaya Akashiya Ayakashino as a nonna recommended, but it's no available outside of Steam, so I'll pass. What's stopping companies from putting games on GOG? There are already plenty of VNs there, including the 18+ ones, like the Rance series.
No. 374249
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>>374247It's available on Nintendo Switch! The physical copy has an English version; it might be on the eshop, too, but I haven't checked.
No. 374250
>>374167In my opinion a man can't write anything that fullfills the conventions the genre. If RN9 had an ending where the characters confessed their love to each other and got married it still wouldn't erase the disgusting h-scenes. If a man would manage to not insert his degeneracy into his writing it would be him holding back to try fitting into these conventions and not a genuine expression of interest for the genre as it should be. I have never played a male targeted game written by women but I'm sure they need to earn a living somehow. And whether that's their only motivation or if it's because they like it doesn't matter to me. Galge don't require a writer to like what they write. It's slop made to pander to incels. BL started as a genre where women showed their love for their ships. Something men inherently don't understand. All the men I've known who liked BL used it to self-insert. Men can't even like BL correctly, how would they write it? Similarly, otome is a consumerist genre and most of them are teaching girls to be submissive to men so I don't care if men are writing otome games. Nitrochiral VNs seem to be made with the intention of selling the best they can that's why they have men working on these games so they can sell better. Obviously all companies are trying to make money but TnC was released during a time where BL VNs were very popular and its cast tried to appeal to a wide range of fujos having an old man, shota, nonsensical rapist, yandere etc. just as other VNs but in TnC's case everything was executed in a fabricated way. While other companies kept having a shota character in their next game they stopped as the fad died. Same reason why SD has a menhera and trannies.
I don't consider everything that has gay sex in it BL. Boku no Pico isn't BL. Picrel was written by a woman but I don't think it's BL.
No. 374257
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>>374238Either they fell for the pinkpill memes a little too hard, their autism makes them think in extremes, they're the losers from the /ot/ thread posting like the other losers they fight with all day are reading, or all of the above. I read on /meta/ they constantly fight over the concept of lesbian fujos, and dare I say some of these posts sound like they're overcompensating to emphasize how ~gay~ fujos can be to their tradthot extremist dissenters. Lolcow is unbearable at times.
If only anons knew you can just have different taste in bl instead of taking the no true scotsman approach
No. 374259
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>>374250dropped pic.
>>374255No
but I never had sex with a man. Everything was so explicit, the way it was drawn, described. They made me feel physically sick at times, I had to force myself to finish playing the game and tried to see them as part of the psychological horror theme. In that way the h-scenes were well made. What did you like about them?
No. 374263
>>374259>What did you like about them?that they were hot and sexy, and then the gross one added to the horror element.
>Everything was so explicit, the way it was drawn, describedhow in the world is this a negative in an ERO GAME kek if you don't like sex then just say that, it's not like women don't make bl smut either and don't start with the "wahh~ it's different when we do it~~" because I know women who create, consume, and love bl porn way more intense and less emotional than rn9 on a daily basis.
No. 374268
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>>374263(RN9 spoilers ahoy)
Even as someone who enjoyed RN9 as a psychological horror and got very emotionally attached to Daichi and Seiji, I still have to say that a big portion of the hscenes were written with an intent to make them disturbing rather than sexy (only the silly/freindly banter of our protag duos throughout those scenes gave me the strength to soldier through). The whole concept of the game lies on the people in the facility forcing our duo to suffer from either physical or mental damage, making them choose between either physically harming Daichi or sexually degrading Seiji. Several of them consisted of Seiji being subjected to one sided things like getting facefucked etc, and Seiji just grimacing and putting up with it is not sexy to readers who enjoy sex scenes with mutual attraction. Personally I didn't find these sexy but still paid attention because how the two main characters' interactions throughout this gave us important characterization info and I understood that the scenes had to be there for the narrative, sexy or not.
The two of them started out as "normal friends", so they tried their best to roll with these weird requests without letting it damage their friendship, with Daichi trying his best in the beginning to ensure Seiji doesn't feel traumatized. But despite his best efforts and depending on the options you pick, their relationship may get damaged beyond repair if they keep picking the sex options and choose to perform violent kinks like strangulation instead of crossdressing. To get a good outcome, the friends have to equally bear the burden (daichi stepping up to get maimed for a few turns so seiji's sex requests stay tame), and it was honestly quite emotionally fulfilling when you go that path.
You even unlock some actually sexy scenes where both of them enjoy it (but if they get lost in the pleasure too much they risk a fucking mindlessly forever end lmao), but that doesn't negate the fact that many of the scenes were designed to be repulsive and harmful to Seiji's psyche, and fujos who didn't enjoy that are very common. Not everyone is like me and alright with sitting through a very graphic scene of an extremely detailed scene of Seiji forcefully being given an enema and shit literally bursting out (vividly shown in CG unless you toggle it) of his ass just so we can get an emotional hurt/comfort scene later.
No. 374272
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>>374253I will pirate it. As for supporting the creator - it's not even on DLsite or similar. The developer has a Booth account though
>https://haccaworks.booth.pmso I might but the OST, since it's digital, just the right tunes for me and not
>out of stock No. 374273
>>374265so you hate sex, but you bought a game with two naked men on the cover where the premise is they get kidnapped and one is forced to repeatedly rape the other… and you're mad about how sexual it is and don't see how your fellow members of the pure, chaste sex could possibly enjoy such obscenities, do I have that right?
>>374268I agree with you, they were intended to be uncomfortable and I understand why they don't appeal to everyone, but anon didn't just say it wasn't for her. she started her post with
>In my opinion a man can't write anything that fullfills the conventions the genre.and then proceeded to do a wall of mental gymnastics to deny it being bl outright, instead of saying it doesn't appeal to her and leaving it at that. this is like the slasher and manhwa debates all over again, but even more nonsensical.
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>>374274Why whiteknight steam i don't care
(ban evading again) No. 374336
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im glad to see the bravern threads on /cm/ are still active. theyre talking about an epilog?
nonnies will we ever get a show this blatant and shameless again?
No. 374357
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>>374336Once every 8 years. These shows always come from the most unexpected places, like YoI or Gundam (not even thinking of WfM, but IBO).
No. 374362
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>>374250AYRT and I can see where you're coming from, even if I don't personally agree. I've never heard of the game in the picture you posted, but looking at reviews, it looks pretty terrible, regardless of what genre it is kek. I enjoyed RN9 for the psychological horror aspects, and
>>374268 said it more intelligently than I could have. I also thought it had some surprisingly great character development, especially considering the expectations I had going into the game. I'm assuming you also don't think Killing Stalking is part of the genre, so I think our differing opinions mostly come down to us defining the genre in different ways.
No. 374380
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This site seems to spawn fujo-hate threads ad infinitum. Apparently, one containment thread was not enough, so the spergs started another and called it 'discussion':
>>>/ot/1978406(do not try to start fujo/anti-fujo infighting ) No. 374402
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>>374380Come on nona the thread was already dying and you had to go and fucking bring attention to it.
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come home western woman
No. 374466
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I want to know the logic behind making a 23 year old call a 25 year old boomer, why are JAST so desperate to add memes that don't fit
No. 374481
>>374466I always assume when people use “ok boomer” it’s like how we used to say “ok gramps” when someone our age sounded like an old person.
>>374336I still haven’t seen it. Is it worth it? It looks super cringe and I don’t know if I’ll survive kek
No. 374491
>>374481the plot and pacing are a bit of a mess but I thought it was funny. it doesn't take itself seriously at all kek. I wish isami cried more tho
>>374483sorry but that logic is retarded. why do you even hang out with trannies if you're going to let them ruin stuff like that? there's nothing gendie about the show if that's what you're worried about though
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>>374466He's probably calling him 'ossan'.
No. 374494
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>>374459Is drawing Ciel with blue hair a new trend? I don't remember it from past fanart.
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>>374336>nonnies will we ever get a show this blatant and shameless again?King of Prism is getting a revival so soon yeah
No. 374501
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>>374336My personal favorite, fairy ranmaru. I'd kill for a s2.
No. 374509
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>>374483I don't see what's so appealing to trannies in Bravern. What kind of places do you frequent? 4chan threads were full of thirstposting and robotfuckers, but no sign of trannies at all.
No. 374513
>>374491Yeah, it having gendie stuff was what I was worried about. One of the genderspecials was interpreting some scene as transition allegory and whatnot. I may give it a try if it was just gendies transwashing as usual and the actual show is normal enough to get the approval of the lolcow crowd kek.
Also like I said, I'm not seeking trannies out, TIFs just invade every fujo space they can and I hate the idea of leaving servers I have friends at (yet unpeaked friends so I can't tell them to kick out the troons or leave with me) just because of dumbasses like that.
No. 374539
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>>374494Not a fan of the bright blue either, his hair is more of an ash navy in the new anime. He's prettier with dark hair
No. 374543
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>>374542Est from WoF comes to my mind and from blvns definitely Shingakkous Abel. Who had similar experiences to Ciel.
I want Amemiyas blonde inspo-cuties to come back.
No. 374546
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>>374491>>374497>isami>crying moreim obsessed enough, that would have pushed me over the edge sisters
No. 374582
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Is this game ryona?
No. 374617
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>>374588If you like bl games with violence, sure. Small but decent cast of characters that have some fun interactions, mc who isn't a limp-wristed twink, alright sex with fetish shit peppered in, ryona, good enemies to lovers route, and one of the better rapeape routes out there. Romance and story are pretty weak
shit ending but it's not a bad game. I know at least one anon here really liked it, it did well in Japan iirc.
No. 374625
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How frequent is it for male seiyuu who started out voicing niche VNs to graduate into voicing anime and making it big in the industry?
No. 374676
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>>374616might rewatch that episode later ngl
No. 374793
>>374767Me
nonnie. I fucking love Netoru
No. 374811
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I wish there was a pokedex or a wikia for all the kaijuu in UUUltra C. It's hard to keep up with who turns into what and what their abilities are.
No. 374815
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>>374793>>374803Ah, happy to see fellow netoru simps. Also I also downloaded nukani for netoru lol (stayed for both him and everything else though)
Mitsugi is a poopyhead in the beginning, I roasted him hard back when I first played the JP version xD. My final verdict was…well, you can guess from picrel lol.
No. 374843
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>>374830Wtf I love Netoru now
No. 374845
>>374826I suppose I am? Agreed about Azuma being bulliable, he walks right into it every time kek
>>374840Hearing netoru as seme in nnm was hilarious to me because of how his moans were way more high pitched and loud than the uke kek. He was decent in the nukani pairings where he's the seme, but I still prefer his bottom roles in that game and in general.
No. 374892
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>>374886That I knew, gives that fanart extra layers kek perfect. Natsu no kusari has a surprisingly large female following, I believe it was the only Clockup game to get a taste of the merch their BL games get, is his inclusion + the hetfag obsession with maledom/femsub the main reason why?
No. 374897
>>374894Most straight women don't want that? The masochist ones are just irritatingly loud.
For this game, I've seen people claim that there's some good psychological analysis stuff in the midst of all that rape? I still wouldn't bother sitting through all that shit for a few crumbs of supposedly good stuff, but maybe some people find it worth the effort.
No. 374904
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>>374894I'm straight and still have no idea, ask the husbandofag and male yandere threads. Everyone used to chalk it up to bpd and daddy issues but it's ~
problematic~ to say that now.
>>374897It's a super short game, but it ultimately offers nothing over room no. 9. It gets shilled more for its psychological aspects because it's not BL, not because it did it better.
No. 374959
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>>374845>Hearing netoru as seme in nnm was hilarious to me because of how his moans were way more high pitched and loud than the uke niemachi in general is pretty memeable cause hisora has such a deep voice for an uke kek, he literally sounds like some random guy. I really liked netoru as mio and his frienemies with asuku even though he doesn't suit
the rapechad role though he was super cute in the fandisk, made me tear up ngl.
Naruomi was a better yandere rapechad. I still can't believe that's seiji though cause he sounds so different in rn9. Still, pretty funny he had so much fun doing that he just shows up in every single thing now. Reminds me of Ryu's seiyuu in the post-game interviews and how surprisingly genki he was.
No. 374960
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>>374924>most of the women that read straight vns self insertNTA, but it might just be a specific type of fan? Maybe I'm being naive, but I see a lot of otome players online insisting they don't self-insert, and I've taken that at face-value. To me, it doesn't seem fair to make that assumption because people have the same exact misconception about people into BL (namely, the dumb belief that yaoi readers self-insert onto the uke when overwhelmingly, that has not been my experience).
>>374904>It gets shilled more for its psychological aspects because it's not BL, not because it did it better.Are the two even similar thematically? To me, the highlight of RN9 was watching their friendship fall apart because of the situation they were placed in. The only reason any of it happened was because they were forced into it. I thought Natsu no Kusari was about some weird guy kidnapping and torturing a girl of his own volition?
No. 374964
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>>374959I love naruomi! I wonder if the translation will have an r18 patch too.
No. 374977
>>374960End A, the
class disparity: both couples have a lower class dom who lives in a society abusing the sub partly out of envy of the hand they were dealt, and partly because they're unable to understand their real feelings. Maledom Netoru incel ml is the focus in that regard and the girl is barely characterized; she's the focus of the porn.
He lets her go, she doesn't report the crime for realistic blackpilled reasons and moves on with her life, and he gets fixed in a way in the good endings, one bad ending is the TnC Shiki white shirt end, and he stops himself before he kidnaps her in the true ending. There's also a forbidden relationship theme from their conflicting backgrounds and personalities. All of that should be what attracted the yume cult following because that's catnip for them.
It's not bad by low budget eroge standards, but it doesn't hit the same without both leads having proper characterization and the build up to how the mcs got that way and the tiny things they could've done to avoid it. Instead you get the internal monologue of a teenage incel and a girl getting raped. It walked so Rn9 could run. They have a similar feel tho and they're both short, I can recommend anyone deeply in love with one play the other.
No. 375038
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>>374964He's so whiny and
mentally ill I love him too nonna… Your post just made me realize nie no machi is getting a switch port in english, kek how are they even gonna do that? 40% of the game is the H scenes especially Naruomi's entire business. Nie no machi is
a good old collection of every fetish under the sun. Though it will be fun to see what zombilica replaces them with, the setting is so fun and funny to explore.
How are they even gonna sfw 35 in the fandisk holy kek No. 375072
>>374924> yes but we want those tropes inflicted on men not women kek By using your logic wanting to see people raped or incest is schizo material
>read straight vns self insert and want those things inflicted on themselfs which is the weird partit's fiction, jesus
No. 375112
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>>375102just drop into game folder, hit extract, and say yes to replace. if it fucks up try doing what the sweet pool patch guide says.
No. 375124
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Why is every BLVN protagonist an orphan?
No. 375133
>>375126>So is every single Disney princessMost of them just have a dead mom, but even then some of them have moms (Aurora, Mulan, Rapunzel, Moana)
BL boys always got two dead parents.
No. 375137
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That's quite the stretch, but yeah I wonder who's raping Takara(?)
No. 375145
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>>375124In Lkyt, Tasuku's parents are both alive
at the beginning, at least. No. 375147
>>375133In nie no machi
bother Hisora's parents are alive. His mom even shows up. Also in NTY
Haru's dad is alive.
No. 375154
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>>375137The dicks in this game look so weird
No. 375155
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>>375145the ukes are the disney princesses of lkyt. except towa, that's male milf zelda.
>>375148haru is his dad's 56th and only living child, he actually doesn't have a name he's just called 56 like a social security number. he's been his dad's torture experiment test subject and sex slave since he was 6 and they would presumably still be fucking assuming his dick still works, hence he had no hang ups about fucking an old men in nty. No. 375157
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>>375155>except towa, that's male milf zelda.I don't know what kind of kuso nukige trope they pulled from to make him but I want 10.
No. 375167
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>>375157Horny onee-san Zelda?
No. 375221
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Awww Matsuda's tradwife loves him so much
No. 375228
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>>375215both
or
>lkyt = morbid body horror military fantasy, guro, gorgeous art, godly sex>nty = yakuza slow burn, funny, godly characters, mild degen dubcon sex>both = gets super depressing, cool lore, cutie top No. 375236
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The guy in first looks smug as a motherfucker…
No. 375248
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>>375236That's Bakshi from luckydog bad egg! I wonder if it will ever get localized, MG is already taking forever to translate luckdog1. For me the funniest part was having Gian (protag for LD1 and LDBE) protagonist ranking TWICE, once for each game kek. Cool-B loves LD way too much.
First place went to my best boy Azuma, very happy about that. He's so cute telling the readers that he "kuso aishiteru"s us for supporting him. This was an older poll though, I wonder how many have taken place after this
No. 375256
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>>375248Kyo my boy ranked 7…. Kek he's in the same position as senge is for the seme poll.
Even though I think senge is kinda mid. Besides cool-B's constant LD1 shilling Gian is indeed a great mc, especially when he was voiced by Tatsuhisa Suzuki in the OG. Jap fujos definitely have a certain type of dynamic they like.
No. 375275
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>>375248Tomoaki doubters on suicide watch
No. 375276
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>>374114Do you consider Patalliro to be BL? If so then yes.
No. 375351
>>374114of course it’s bl. bl isn’t defined as “gay content made by women” it’s just “gay content”. also some of the earliest bl work was made by actual gay men, see
>>375276. bit of a weird question “is gay porn still gay porn if it’s made by a (gay/bi) guy?” kek
No. 375355
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i watched koisuru boukun last night it was funny asf and the uke is cute but the second episode mostly sucked
No. 375356
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>>374114I actually wish more straight(bi?) scrotes would write BL. Pic rel is the closest thing to moe yurislop i could find in BL form. I still want this shit to come out of hiatus, but it's probably canned forever since the scrote working on it is focused on his yurishit SOL manga.
No. 375358
>>375356We do
not need a mindless moid yurislop clone in BL, that shit is awful. I hate men and their disgusting obsession with purity and innocence and childishness. They destroyed Yuri and you want them to destroy BL too?
No. 375361
>>375359People usually complain that bl is too short, lol.
Maybe stop reading only webtoons and visual novels.
No. 375362
>>375360Women do fluff better than moids even, has anon never seen an office bl?
What moids should contribute to bl is taking their autistic special interests in things like sport, war, mecha, guns, organized crime, and gambling, making homoerotic animanga about them the same way they've been doing, and then going the extra mile to splice it with detailed gay sex scenes, manservice, and kisses.
No. 375363
>>375360can you rec some? I dont know if its about the 'fluff' aspect of it tho, the yuri i normally read is pretty lewd. I just like SOL mixed with some lewd aspects, like Sakura Trick or Otome no Teikoku.
>>375361Anon…i wasn't talking literally… but rather that most BL drags the angst aspect a lot and can get pretty tedious to follow. I don't read webtoons either, the art is shit.
>>375362I tried to get into that while it was airing but i dont understand the merman autism.
No. 375372
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>>375355I swear they repeated the same plotline like 20 times in the manga, but the art is beautiful. still vividly remember that goofy arc where that weird guy saw them fuck in public and blackmailed souichi over it but all he ever did to him was make him go to karaoke and sing the doraemon theme song over and over every night
No. 375373
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>>375370I just want another Nichibros anime…
No. 375377
>>375356>>375359The large amount of fluff and SoL BL that's out there is vast so this sounds more like a you problem only skimming through the front page of MRM instead of putting in the leg work and looking for other options. What the fuck anon, are you a time traveler from the mid 00's or something?
>>375367>nakamura Well, I guess you are.
No. 375378
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>>375373I just want the chunnibyou boys reverse harem, but as a bl.
No. 375379
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>>375363What's not to understand? Gay freeloading asshole fish invites his gay freedloading asshole fish friends over to destroy that guy's bathroom
No. 375383
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>>375372ohh when he took off his glasses! yeah the manga looks like it has much better illustration overall
No. 375384
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>>375362>What moids should contribute to bl is taking their autistic special interests in things like sport, war, mecha, guns, organized crime, and gambling, making homoerotic animanga about them the same way they've been doing, and then going the extra mile to splice it with detailed gay sex scenes, manservice, and kisses.Based and high IQ take. It's basically what Kojima does with his games and they all have a gigantic fujo fanbase.
No. 375387
>>375363>SoL mixed with lewd aspectsTry these:
>Aho Ero>Itoshi no XL size>[Shougeki] Oshi no Biyoukei Haishinsha ga Kyaku toshite Kita Kekka>Sukebe no Seishun>Ichika, BachikaThey're not the "yurislop but BL" you're looking for but as far as I remember the relationship drama is either wrapped up quickly or played for laughs
No. 375389
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>>375387Thanks
nonny i will check them out. I think anons are confused because they have never read/watched yuri. But what i meant by ''yurislop but Bl'' is
>SOL comedy>multiships(literally everyone is a homosexual)>minimal drama or it's played for laughs. An unrequired love is funny rather than dramatic>main couple are already stablished from the startwill-they-won't-they can get on my nerves at times, so it's nice to read something where the characters are already a couple and it revolves around them and their shenanigans. For example, the yuri manga by the ''Boku To'' author has like 7 ships, some are already stablished, while the rest are either slowly developing or have some drama to it. In my opinion it's a better mix and makes it more enjoyable to read casually. I prefeer BL overall, but it's not something i read to 'relax'.
No. 375428
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>>375389Closest I can think of is Zettai BL or stuff that fringes on being BL without actually being it like Danshi Koukousei wa Kyou mo Onaka ga Suiteiru or 19 days. I get what you mean, though, I feel like the male series that fringe on the kind of yurislop tend to be less defined in their ships and angle more for freedom of shipping unfortunately.
No. 375431
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>>375428Samefag but Fudanshi Kazoku is also sort of close.
No. 375435
>>375359bl is literally full of that. you sound like those annoying yuri “”fans”” that cry about there being no adult
toxic yuri or whatever when that’s basically every gl manwha ever
No. 375443
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>>371360ngl ugly and old is kind of kino when they're 2d and they bottom.
They'll never be able to hurt you and you can subject them to as much abuse as you want.
No. 375448
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>>375443I wish more BL(specifically comedy manga) had ugly or unconventional looking protags with yu-gi-oh tier hair… It'd just make things more interesting than the usual generic men we end up seeing.
No. 375456
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Has this manga ended yet? What's your opinion on it?
No. 375478
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>>371214Also 30+ anon.
I was in that boat for years and just following westaboo jp/kr/cn artists, but getting into a series with a tiny english fandom/friend circle of mainly older fujos dragged me back in somewhat.
No. 375511
>>375456I don't really care for Loveless but it's very nostalgic for me. It was one of those baby's first
problematic series shared among male and female manga readers when I was a tween
No. 375523
>>375459personally, I just want a small subset of BL to have actual ugly or unconventional looking chars rather than just being fetish shit in the case of "fat" MCs or "ugly moe" like you described. Just to make things more visually interesting, since a lot of artstyles just sort of blend together at a point.
>>375455KEK. I mean, I know the pic I posted does have the MC looking like luffy but, I'm a simple woman with a simple want. A silly comedy based romance with a goofy looking MC or love interest. Something like "A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl" but BL, not erasing the whole genre with uggos since I still like handsome 2D men as much as the next anon.
No. 375526
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>>375448>>375459>>375454>glasses, dark circles under eyes and messy hair, frecklesall of these traits are super cute to me tbh I wouldn't consider them ugly at all. I wish they were more common in bl along with small irises/weird eyes