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No. 1962884
Post about your employment status, successes, woes, anxieties, rants, etc.
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>>>/ot/1801622Quoting bc post is in another thread:
>i work as a software developer and i hate coding. it’s so repetitive and tedious and i suck at it. i feel too stupid to have this job. i feel like i spend all day asking for help from my colleagues. i regret getting a compsci degree i want to rip my hair out godHow long have you worked as a software dev? It does get easier, though it doesn't really get better imo.
I'm past the painful "overreliance on others" phase, but I still constantly feel like I'm forcing myself to do something that I have no natural aptitude for. It's difficult for me not to feel extremely regretful, even though I'm really lucky that I'm able to perform my job satisfactorily well, that I get paid a decent amount and don't work long hours, and that I get to be fully remote.
I actually switched to CS on a bit of a whim after working in medicine a bit and realizing that I did not want to put myself through the rigor of med school just so I could be trapped in a high-responsibility and high-stress career by a mountain of debt. I ended up finding my CS degree substantially more emotionally taxing than doing a bio degree with pre-med stuff, but I chalked this up to the fact that my school's CS program was considered very good while the bio one was just middling. I imagined
deluded myself into thinking that working at a corporation would be somewhat chill, and that I just had to make it through school, and I'd be alright. Working isn't quite as intense as school was, but the deadlines are never-ending, my least favorite parts of doing the degree are now my job, my coworkers are all male and are either afraid to interact with me or subtly flirtatious, and I now have to deal with a bunch of corporate nonsense.
You're always "learning," but this isn't usually learning about computer architecture, infrastructure, or programming languages. You're learning only as much of the cool and generally useful stuff as you need to scrape by while you instead dedicate most of your workweek and energy to memorizing the details of a sprawling, complex, and impossibly shitty machine cobbled together by people who often are even more confused and retarded than you are. And when that piece of shit has problems (and it constantly has problems), you are the authority on it, and you have to grit your teeth and take ownership of it and prostrate yourself before upset coworkers, even when you're given 0 resources to improve it. This shit seriously makes me feel like I am wasting my life.
I'm really not sure how long I want to stick it out. I'm not happy, and I feel like I am just not very naturally oriented towards tech and programming. I can do it just fine, but it requires immense effort on my part, and I feel like I'm a square peg forcing myself into a round hole, shredding off my corners every day by coming up with 1,000 coping strategies to get myself to be able to focus on work that I quite frankly find boring, exhausting, meaningless, and somewhat stressful.
Yet despite my struggles, the pay and QoL disparity between tech and everything else is so massive that I can't imagine that switching to a career in something like medicine would make me appreciably happier. I currently spend my workday being miserable, and I can't work on any personal projects, but at least I have the physical energy to cook and do chores. I don't have to waste a ton of time with a commute. I don't get that much time off, but I don't have to worry about getting my shift covered or anything. And I make more money than most people my age could dream of. (Unfortunately, it's not so much that I could both own a house and retire early, and I can't use it to travel any time soon because I can't afford a gap in my resume in this hyper-competitive job market.)
I feel like I'm in limbo and waiting for it to get better, for me to be able to reclaim the confidence and free time that I had when I was in college doing pre-med. But I don't see any clear path that would make it better, besides lucking out with one of those remote jobs where you do hardly any work. I feel so shitty and entitled for not being happy with what I have, but I am so frustrated that I have worked so hard, and I feel like
this is the best life I can feasibly get.
This turned into quite the rant, but yeah. I'm sure some anons can commiserate.
No. 1964059
>>1963994Just started a new tech job (
>>1961390 ) and I feel the same way, roughly. Except I'm the sole tech hire, I'm working on everything alone, my set up is weird because I have to speak to the company we outsource hell desk work to if I want to install anything (and they're retarded and difficult), etc. etc. etc. but the pay is great. My boss is cool. I get my own office, benefits are amazing, etc. etc. I could go on and on.
No. 1964408
>>1962941YES.
If you're thinking of going to undergrad for CS then the problem will probably clear by the time you graduate. If you're looking into doing a boot camp or a career path that isn't related to programming, project management, or possibly UX design then forget it. Even experienced workers are having trouble finding jobs right now and new grads are screwed.
No. 1964601
I know this is a long shot.. but are there any fields/jobs that earn above average incomes and you can learn on your own in your free time or follow paid retraining programs for? What programming used to be like
>>1964539 said I guess. Do blue collar jobs earn better now that everyone is over-educated and there's a shortage for them?
I went to school for my current job and I enjoy it, it's a comfy office job that feels meaningful, it earns me a stable enough living, but I realized I won't be able to make it out of the renting market on a single income in this field. Just wondering what my options are without going back to university full-time which isn't an option.
No. 1965565
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Just started a job today and it's already exhausting. I feel poorly trained, and I am standing all day as a cashier. I dont mind that part of the job, but I am brand new to this system and don't know how the cafeteria food in this building works. So I have to ring people out for the correct amount or I can accidently over or under charge them. Like my trainer was nice, but she felt too busy to properly train me. I am hoping I am over thinking this, since it was day 1.
I have to be there at 6am, which sucks a lot. Other than that, the job itself isnt the worst. However, they have a ZERO PHONE policy, where I have to leave my phone in my car. I cant even bring it inside the building. The other locker that i put it in is half a block away and so for lunch, I either get to eat or spend the time running to get my phone from 2 buildings away.
I'm not gonna lie, nonnies, I am already dreading the rest of the week. I dont mind not using my phone for work, but to not even be allowed to have it in the same building i am in?? It's a little too much for under $18 an hour…
No. 1966042
>>1965565If you have your lunch outside you can just put your phone in your bag, in a small pouch if neccesary, what are they going to do, search your bag like it's an airport?
Anyway look for something better while you work this job. I worked in administration for a while when I didn't have any qualifications and felt over and done with slaving away at manual labour jobs, might be worth looking into if you want to get something that's more comfy.
No. 1966182
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ive been trying to get internships or a job now that im about to graduate and ive had very little luck every application is just getting sent into the aether. This job that seemed promising is now ghosting me. I dont think i have too shitty of a resume for a new grad. I have a bit of experience and a few certifications. this is so ass
No. 1966457
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Is learning javascript programming going to be worth it?
On one hand I'm good at basic computer shit and love autistic tedious tasks; and it seems fun so far.
But the other hand is that I'm nervous about how people say Computer science is a saturated field. The outsourcing as well as the new AI shit doesn't help either, as well as the mass lay offs.
All I want is a basic bitch office job but I feel like the only ones open are front desk receptionist and dealing with customers already sucks (especially boomers, its always older people throwing massive shit fits- I don't even think I met a karen/kevin who's under 40 years old).
Also during interviews, people suggest to lie about diversity so that you can get hired more easily. But I'm also seeing people say that they don't hire people with they/them pronouns and openly say that companies find them too hostile for the work environment. Everything is polarized and I don't know wtf the reality is anymore.
No. 1966509
>>1966042I'm tempted to bring a bag with my phone but they are a high security place and I'm worried they'll fire me if I use my phone on site. It's insane since I have to use my ID to go through a scanner. I'm worried the scanner will pick up the phone and then I'll get in trouble. They have a super strict no phone policy for every single person that works there. It's definitely easier to find a new job at this point.
I timed myself today at lunch and it takes 5 mins to run to the first builder to get my phone from my locker, so I can only use it on lunch, not even break. Not even subtracting the minutes I spend getting to the time clock area, which is at the back of the kitchen. Place is wild. When will they learn taking away people's phones is really unreasonable? I dont even work in the security dept, just the cafeteria.
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Nonnas my field finally has 3 spots open after waiting more than 6 months for an opening! If I don't get a spot I'll probably sign up for the navy or something.
>>1966503I used chatGPT to clean up my CV by ordering it to make certain sections sound smarter. It just another tool that provides you with support and answers, as long as you know what to ask.
No. 1967904
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What kind of job can I do if I have no degree and no real skills?
I did a lot of random shit over the last 15 years. Administration, book keeping, logistics, tech support, retail etc.. I also finished a few tech related courses but I'm still so new I can't apply as dev + there are absolutely 0 tech jobs where I am and moving isn't an option.
I feel completely lost because I wanted to go into tech but the market is so oversaturated and compared to someone with a degree no one would hire me. People keep telling me to get out of the country because I can speak multiple languages but what's the point if I have no skills?
No. 1968533
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I periodically have to remind myself that my boss isn't my friend, and my "work friends" aren't my friends either. This isn't to say that I've been trauma dumping or open book-ing at work or anything, it's more I've been letting myself get very stressed out over acts I parse as "betrayal" or "unfair assignments from someone I thought to be a great manager who considered my time and emotional stability (lol)." And, logically speaking, they are good managers – these are objectively the best bosses I've had thus far – they just aren't my pals and don't otherwise have my good interest at heart past ensuring I can turn them a profit. And I mean, they do, but if they feel they can push me and I won't quite snap they will.
I'm not mad, I'm just processing. I'm really unused to the (proper) corpo world so it's jarring to run into these situations. If any of this makes sense or even gets read by anyone else do general vents about work even go here? Should I have posted in vent?.
I can't wait until Friday. Hopefully Thursday goes by in a blur and Friday follows suit. Everyone does fuck-all on Fridays here.
No. 1968591
>>1968533I feel the same way. I have a hard time navigating the whole thing, as I get rather paranoid about the whole dynamic. I get along with and have shared interests with my boss, but he's kind of a weird guy and it's very hard for me to tell what he's thinking.
He often proposes that me, him, and another coworker play video games together in our free time, and I don't know what to make of it. I really don't want to be cynical about it, and on one hand I'm not, but I feel myself get way more emotionally attached than I'm comfortable with if I assume that he really just wants to foster relationships on my (admittedly very asocial) team. So in a way, it's easier for me to think that he's just approaching teambuilding in a manipulative but benign table-tennis-in-the-lunchroom way, but that just causes me to build resentment towards him and the general fakeness of corporate culture. However, we do have some good and genuine conversations, so it's hard for me not to run a little wild with that and want to open up and be understood by him, as mutual understanding and really getting to know a person is something that I value a ton, personally.
Ugh. I've gotten decently good at maintaining a certain distance, but I find doing it extremely emotionally unsatisfying. My bf has great, actual friendships with his coworkers, including his boss, and I'm so envious.
Also, I'm glad you posted here. No hate towards the job-seekers, but I mostly come here to try to get a feel for how people similar to myself are adjusting to entering the workforce full-time. No. 1969280
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Has anyone made a move on a someone at work that you don’t work with (and don’t even know the name of)? How do you do it?
No. 1981785
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I'm fucking done with retarded corpo shit. Ever since I worked in a call center I just can't deal with the fakness that comes with a corporate setting, everyone is just smiling and lying. My fuse has become too short for this shit but I still have to interview with HR morons that are the same if I want to get a job anywhere.
The most recent stupid thing that happened in my job search:
>IT specialist job ad
>find out during the interview none of the work I'd do would be even remotely IT related
Why waste everyone's time like this? Just write you're looking for a fucking secretary or some shit oh my god. I wish I was actually skilled enough to be able to directly tell these people to go fuck themselves.
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it finally happened! i quit my hotel job in January because it was abusive as hell, and ive finally been able to pull my old work bestie away from there as well and she has a may 7 start date at my current place! she's texting me about everyone's reactions to her leaving and its like i get to vicariously quit the hotel all over again through her. that place has pushed out all of its decent workers in the past year because anyone pulling their weight makes the managers feel bad about themselves. im so glad to have "rescued" her from there so now i can really say fuck that place w/o feeling guilty
No. 1984949
>>1983403Congrats nonna! I'm so happy that you two get to work together again. You won.
>>1969280Don't. People still talk.
No. 1985015
>>1984953Yes. It's a fine job. Bottle/shot bars are the easiest. Learning how to mix a cocktail or pretending to care about craft beer or wine isn't that hard either. It's one of those jobs where if you learn how to do it right you naturally get fast at doing the work, but if you rush while you're learning you'll fuck up a lot later. Remember that every little bit of booze adds up at a bar and it all equals money; over-pouring will make your boss hate you and upselling will make your boss like you.
Hours are bad, not good for your health. Do not under any circumstance get in the habit of having drinks with coworkers after your shift is over, that is how you piss away all your money. Drinking after work will also destroy your sleep hygiene. People working in F&B disproportionately have drug and alcohol problems, it's not a baseless stereotype, do not pick up a coke habit or anything retarded.
Ask the existing staff how tips work before you step on toes. There might be a tip splitting system or a tipout system for bar-backs, dishwashers, servers, etc. Find out. You could be owed tips from servers for pouring/mixing drinks for their tables, you want to know that sort of thing.
No. 1985084
>>1985015You are amazing, thank you
nonnie. I appreciate you!
No. 1985321
>>1985291assuming you're talking about IT, I got an associate's and ended up needing to get A+ certification anyways even though my degree taught me far beyond that level. It's a hard requirement for most entry-level jobs (and yes, even with degree only the most basic entry jobs would take me without experience). Also I've been told many times that years of working help desk trumps a degree or certs every time in this field, basically only reason to get a degree is because some schools are partnered with companies that scout new hires from the graduates.
For my school, that was an AI company who made you take specific AI classes for a job and I don't want to work with AI so it was basically useless Finish your degree since you're already doing it and it won't hurt, but if I could do it all over I'd get A+, maybe Net+ or Security+, practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs so I have something to put on the resume, and then start looking for a super entry level tech support job. Easier said than done since getting hired with no experience is hell, but doesn't that go for all fields? Also if your school has an IT or programming club join that, recruiters love that stuff. I don't think getting a degree helped at all tbh and spending that time working would've done more for me.
No. 1985331
>>1985321Thank you I shall take your words to heart
>practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCsThat's already my hobby 24/7 kek so I wouldn't have trouble there
Gonna sound nitpicky but my biggest filter for me is all the really specific details like what voltage on your laser printer balls or whatever other nonsense.
I know why they question it, it's just annoying to memorize but that's another issue entirely outside of getting certs
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I hate how long getting a job actually takes. 1 month of waiting for them to close the application window, weeks for them to read everything, more weeks or potentially months for them to respond and set up an interview and then waiting for vetting to clear, all while you're jobless.
>>1985352I think it depends on the job and how clean/healthy you look. Clean and moisturised nails, tidy hair and fitting clothing should look professional enough, but tinted lip balm and neat eyebrows will elevate it.
No. 1986087
>>1985685NTA but all call centres are soul sucking. Outbound call centres are their own special circle of hell, but inbound ones aren't great either. You always get customers calling to bitch about their order because one item is two shades off what they saw online or complain that they have defective internet because they can't connect their books to their Kindle. You get customers threatening suicide to see if they can get away with not paying bills. You get retards who rant at you because they dialed the wrong number and it's your fault somehow. It's doable if you don't give a shit but it does get to you.
Outbound call centres, not even once.
No. 1986153
>>1966457A bit of a late response but in my experience there will always be work for people who can actually code and can communicate well. There's so many turboautists and morons who try to use ChatGPT for everything polluting the candidate pool and that's why it seems like the field is saturated. My company's had a tech position open for years and had probably hundreds of candidates apply but most of them are filtered out by the most basic of programming tests or can't control their autism enough to pass an interview if they do succeed.
My company wouldn't hire a they/them in a thousand years but we're a small business. A large business might have drunk the Kool-Aid and pick up a they/them diversity hire. It probably depends who you're applying to.
No. 1986155
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Ugh, all the signs of targeted layoffs have hit my org. The chances that I'd be cut are slim but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if the entire org were wiped out. Tech needs to stop shitting the bed.
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i accidentally missed one of my shifts cause i read my schedule wrong now as punishment my job isn’t going to be scheduling me. i’ve never missed a day of work, i always show up on time etc i feel like this is a little outrageous of a “punishment” i know my manager doesn’t really like me but do any nonas have similar experiences? i work at a retail mall clothing store so it might be different
No. 1988026
>>1985685I had to do inbound for a couple years at my medical office job, until calls were redirected to an actual call center because the number of them was overwhelming. It is hell, people are very mentally unhinged in any job where you work with the public in person too but they act out way more on the phone. I had to hang up some calls because they were so mental. You also get a lot of people who think you have all the time in the world trauma dumping on you while you're running on a clock. This doesn't happen as frequently in person because they feel the pressure of everyone else waiting in line and staring, but on call they can't feel it so they dc.
It gave me phone anxiety and I seriously don't miss it, I can't imagine outbound or doing sales. I'd probably crumple up and die.
No. 1994178
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Nonas i think i'm going insane, i need to leave my ghost city but i need to find a job to save money to do it.
The issue is that this place has nothing but family owned supermarkets and bars, there are some private doctors, saloons, one weird doorknob shop, one tailoring shop, some schools, some flower shops, even the hospital is failing even though i'm supposed to live in an important city.
It's a complete ghost town, any shop that opens closes, everytime i could find a job was somewhere out but i couldn't keep up with it because the train and bus services suck here.
I'd appreciate any tip but i'm really considering just looking for something online but i'm not sure what i have to look for, i thought that maybe after covid there would be more things like that but is it possible to get something stable out of it? I like to draw in my part time but i really want to keep that for other projects i have and not commissions.
I feel so awful, i've moved here since i was a kid and not even my mother could find a job here, my father worked in another city but ofc he had to leave my family.
No. 1994201
>>1994178I recommend getting an online job to save up some money. Commissions can be good, but you would only be drawing the most degenerate porn so keep that in mind. It would be better to get something in customer service and save up a little money, then you can move to a big city and get an in person job.
Once you get to the big city, hotels are an easy starter job, but nursing homes normally also need people to make beds and bring the patients snacks. Worst case scenario, fast food is always hiring. You'll have to start out with several roommates (try to shoot for only female roommates), but as things get better and you get a better job, you'll make money and be able to move to better neighborhoods.
No. 1994420
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I have an interview for an internship at a museum, my coworkers are already talking like I've bagged it but if I don't get this it will crush my soul
No. 1994924
We received an update status on the company two days ago, because our department couldn't attend the meeting three weeks ago (due to illnesses and people's days off, we were only two out of six in our team that work with customers face to face and had to be there to… y'know, do our fecking job).
CEO complains in the status update about staff costs being 2,6 million in our company which my department and colleagues are definitely not seeing the color of with our 18-21k/year salary kek and "really thinking about replacing people who quit to first use the synergies in the teams better" aka give the responsibilities of the person who quit to the next mule in the team that still had their own shit going on and wait until they snap and quit themselves, rince and repeat ad vitam eternam, but is fine with paying a prestige office floor with view over the whole city for almost a quarter million a year in a building that's breaking from the inside out (the old plumbing in the toilet smells of sewers, there are only two elevators out of six that really work, glass/plexiglass panels coating the facade have been falling down and being a hazard in town for the last 15-20 years). And now they're being reluctant to stay in the prestige floor because the company renting the floor raises the price by 42%. Upper management should have seen this coming since 2021 when the real estate prices were way more affordable and already looked at other office buildings to move to.
But nah fam, the real problem is the 2,6-2,7mio in staff costs, of course. Sure.
No. 2001280
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How cringe is it to put "Youtube Content Creator - Self Employed" on a resume?
I've been leaving it out, but the gap that creates looks like absolute trash because Youtube was almost all I did from 2018 to 2021.
The jobs I'm aiming for are just part time ones like data entry/hotel receptionist/waitress, nothing fancy. If the rest of my resume wasn't so fucked I wouldn't even be stressing about this as much as I am, but alas, it is.
The thing is, I can easily spin what my channel was about to sound good, but if anyone asks for its name I'm fucked kek. The videos really weren't professional, and I feel like being a full time Youtube content creator is unusual enough for the interviewers to comment on it and want to know more. I learned many valuable skills from it though, and the videos took a lot of work, so I'm leaning towards including it. It's not like I was unemployed during that time.
What do you workfag nonnies think? Leave it out? Include it? Kill myself? I just don't know.
No. 2001302
>>2001280I think it would only work out if you were willing to link to your YouTube channel and if you were clearly putting out well-made content at a decent rate. It's OK if it doesn't have many views, but it should feel like it clearly has appeal to some audience and it should not feel immature.
It would still turn a lot of employers off, but it's also a great hook for hiring managers that value having interesting people to work with that can clearly self-motivate.
No. 2001345
>>2001291I'm worried they'd think I was an e-whore if I made it sound really vague kek. At least with a monetized Youtube channel it's clear that my videos were normal enough for ads to play on them, you know?
>>2001292>>2001294Hmm. Producer sounds pretty good. Or maybe Internet/Content Marketer or something…? Thanks for the suggestions, it sounds a lot less cringe than Content Creator.
>>2001302I got a good amount of views back then, which is why I used it as my main source of income for some time. Unfortunately the content was immature lol, so the thought of an employer watching it makes me want to die of embarrassment. I started the channel when I was in my early 20s and still kind of retarded, and I can't really delete any of the older vids because those are the ones with the most views.
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Has anyone here switched fields successfully? How did you do it and how much time did it take? Also, which field did you go into?
No. 2002427
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I want to get a second degree and change careers, so nonnas employed in these areas:
- Anthropology
- Philosophy
- Art/art studies/whatever it is that americans call it
- Psychology
What is your actual job? How related is it to your degree? Do you like it?
No. 2002487
One of my colleagues is obsessed with chatGPT, he bought a subsciption to like the most recently released, non-public version and makes it do his job. He's also "learning programming" in one of the classes he's taking for a programme our organization put him into, and by learning I mean he feeds their home works and class assignments into ChatGPT and gives it back. He's always excitedly telling me what "he" managed to do with the help of ChatGPT, by prompting it for like 4-5 work hours because I'm known to fuck around with scripting some of my tasks, obviously it's some very sub-amateur shit I do for fun.
He's always beaming with pride and I don't want any workplace conflict, but I don't know how he can pretend he learned anything or that he's gaining any skills when he doesn't modify any code himself, he just prods this AI for hours until it can produce a passable result. I've used openAI to mine some texts, so it's not like I'm an absolute luddite, but this shit seems ridiculous, and I don't know how can he not see he's only hurting his own competence by letting this AI-assisant do all of the "thinking". Is this really the future? Will people just not do any studying because they trust the AI will be able to do it? It's fucking bleak and I want to slap this guy
No. 2002501
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I just found out that my job ends at the end of the month. Is it bad if I feel bitter towards the people who decided I should be fired? I’m a contract worker who was told from the start that it would evolve into a full-time offer due to a hiring freeze. Then the VP in charge got fired and replaced, and now the new VP & CFO said that all contractors have to be terminated at the end of the month. The funny thing is that this only came into question because my director tried asking her if I could be brought on full-time yet. Thank god I have another job already lined up at a way bigger company with way more growth opportunities and it’s lining up perfectly so I won’t be unemployed. Still feels like shit because I was really excited for this lady to replace the old VP, only for her to ultimately fire me.
No. 2002814
>>2002586I have nothing to contribute other than to say imagining one of my middle or highschool teachers saying
>loser dead midget faggot rappermade me kek
No. 2003454
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Does anyone know about business fraud, or could ask someone who does? I'm seriously considering sending in an anonymous IRS snitch form about my current work. It's a 501c3 college.
tl;dr
>last year we lost a ton of support staff and most are now assuming an accreditation issue started in October due to other issues
>my boss suddenly quit
>boss was necessary staff, mid-semester, it's a mess
>administration hires a new lady
>full-time job, great, we just need someone
>Oh no she's a massive bitch
>she's 8 months pregnant
>immediately leaves in November for maternity leave saying she'll be back in February
>she never came back
>good riddance
>we sincerely thought she quit
>in the meantime we got a temp boss
>she's great, may as well full-time her because other bitch isn't showing up
>turns out our departments are bullying my temp boss threatening that the full-time lady will show up
>also turns out the full-timer was hired on immediately, no temping, and has been collecting maternity leave money and a salary this entire time
>she has been completely AWOL unless she's exclusively talking to people above my head, which isn't a huge group
>that position is supposed to schedule hours for me and a few others, and she's done none of that, temp boss and another temp have been doing it, which has honestly been good
>last thing full-time lady ever asked me to do was double-booking me for 2 shifts and not paying for 2x the hours
>I just found out about the full-time pay yesterday
Other semi-related issue is one of the upper managers let slip that their employment is "an arrangement" because they're full-time elsewhere. They're paid benefits and full-time salary while not feasibly working those hours at the school. I'm less familiar with that one though since it's possible they're massively overworked, which is another problem by itself.
Is this considered kickbacks? Is it legal at all? Another similar school went under a few years ago for shit like this and there seem to be ongoing issues at the top, so if I did anything it won't overshadow their current circus. I'm already in the process of leaving this job, and nobody here was a reference, so I have nothing to lose, but I do have more info access than I should. There's a mess of other problems but this was the most transparent money-related one I've seen.
No. 2004648
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I hate trying to find a job in this shit hole. I've got nothing against immigration (my parents are immigrants themselves), but the sheer amount of them has made it impossible to find work. You've got lines around the block just for a chance to work at a liquor store. What the hell am I even going to do? I can't possibly compete with that many people. I hate living here.
No. 2004659
I posted this in the vent thread but it's relevent here.
A guy from my old job has been nominated for a national award based on work I did!!!
I cant fucking believe it, he was the team leader I was deputy for a side project at work, I did all of the work because he didnt give a shit. I set the whole fucking team up. I managed everthing. I did everyone elses work as noone else cared. I set up the events. I made the connections, partnerships, relationships with outside parties that was needed. I set up lot's of template files, wrote instructions to carry it on after I left as I didnt want it to collapse. I bumped into an old collegue today and ask if he knew if my old side project was still running, and he fucking tells me the guy is nominated for a national award FOR MY FUCKING WORK!!!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!!
There is fuck all I can do about it! I hope he doesn't win.
Nonnas learn from this never ever set others up to succeed, when you leave a job or when you are at a job don;t leave instructions, don;t leave templates, don't do or leave anything that can help others, delete everything.
No. 2004745
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Both of my applications for a company went from "under consideration" to "submitted" after 20 days of waiting, and I have no idea if that's good or bad.
No. 2004995
>>2004863I dont think so he would have been nominated by my old office so the award organisation would have no idea.
The proof would be on my old offices system and they would be unlikely to care as it looks good for them to have him nominated especially if he wins so they would probably cover for him if they knew.
No. 2005323
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>coworker offered to let me rent in the in-law apartment at their family's house
>need a place closer to my jobs and they've helped me out at work so it didn't sound too bad
>told me today that they found pics of me/my college graduation info online and texted it to their brother because they want to introduce me to him
>2nd coworker overhears this, tells me it'd be a good thing for me and starts asking the other coworker about how much money he has and what his job history
why do people have to be like this, what the fuck
No. 2005397
>>2004961>>2005038Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Just got back from my shift. Anons, I don't know what I got myself into. This really should be illegal.
>I'm not sure it's even legal? Where do you work? In a tourist trap in Europe. And as a receptionist in a camp. There's different type of units one can rent (pitches and mobile houses) and different type of services and different type of clients. This place has such convoluted ways to do things that should be simple let alone when any level of complexity is involved. The program we use is ancient, laggy and sometimes it doesn't record something properly so we have to double check everything. I barely got the hang of basics so the fact that I'm already on my own albeit with occasional help from my busy colleagues scares me. Learning through trial and error is fine if there's not a pay-deducting rule enforced. They can't have it both ways, barely train someone and then expect them to pay for their mistakes that are 100% going to happen. The stress simply isn't worth it. Plus there are other insane rules like not being allowed to sit for some reason which hurts when you're supposed to work 8 hours per day, six days per week. Standing when there are guests at the desk is reasonable. If they told me any of this before signing the contract I would have bailed out. As it currently stands I will be looking for other jobs from now on, but come next month, I will be resigning either way. The stakes are too high especially since "mistakes" can easily get into 300-400 euro range.
No. 2005658
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I think I had the worst vet tech week ever.
>working at an animal shelter for 5 years as the head and only licensed tech>Worked the place up from a literal illegal drug den shit hole to something a city could be proud ofanywho
>vet tech week rolls around>for the first time ever, board actually recognizes VT week and gets us food>on my clocked out lunch, the board corners me while I try to eat to ask me about a controversial topic in the shelter>baited.jpeg>take a neutral position because I could get fired by manager, assistant manager or by the board, all of whom have different views>very next day, get word that I'm being demoted, the yearly raise that everyone had gotten for 5 years is being taken away from me, and that my position and my accumulated raises are given to an unlicensed heroin addicted moid who was still greenI was basically forced to quit. They wouldn't fire me because then their unemployment insurance may increase, so instead they threaten my career.
I still put in my 2 weeks but the shit I had to do to animals in that time will forever haunt me. I was absolutely berated in those few weeks, I was treated like trash, I was publicly humiliated both in front of coworkers and peers and the general public. I loved shelter work, I like vet med, but I haven't done either since I left. I haven't done fucking anything besides putter around some remote jobs for a few weeks. I would rather be homeless than go to work again. What is wrong with me.
>>2003454I've worked in the non-profit sector almost my whole life. In my experience, most 501c3's are doing something sketchy, if not total money laundering through smurfing or shell companies. Yours is def on the sketchy side. I would look into different ways people can use non profits to make money 'clean', see if there's any nepotism with this upper management, and keep an eye out for things like asking specifically for small donations or large donations in cash, which are easier to hide from the IRS. A big red flag for me is if you have board members or big donors from all over the world, IF your non-profit isn't hugely popular or largely international. Let me know what you find if you can safely,
nonnie. I find that type of stuff interesting.
No. 2005718
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>>2005658AYRT, hilariously good timing.
Temp boss gave me the dirt the other day - we're being audited. We figured something was going on with ongoing staffing issues, EVERY new person being a spouse or personal friend to our chair, and people suddenly jumping ship a few months ago. Our theory is my last boss who bailed tipped off either an accreditation board or the IRS. Our controller and basically everyone managing accreditation, statistics, and money, disappeared and the positions are open. Maybe 2 months ago, we had people who looked way too official to be here prying about what type of school we were and looking at facilities; I figured they were assessors.
Turns out our department chair got caught using the college fund to pay off his buddies for "faculty dinners" while promising them faculty jobs next year. He has a whole class dedicated to his friends coming in and just bullshitting to the freshmen. The bullshit "full-time" hours came up as well. Someone from a different department has been getting paid but they're refusing to on-board her, she made a huge stink about it on her own and that just set off this wave of shit in the last 2 weeks. I guess there's a state law that requires on-boarding if you are paying someone over a certain amount for services. We just had our timecards partly taken away, now all our event work has had to be reported on-paper instead of online. I'm glossing over a lot of drama but we fucking figured something was going on just from how many cronies started showing up telling us to bill like crazy. Titanic's sinking and these dumbasses are raiding the kitchen.
I'm not very knowledgeable about FERPA but this coincides with federal aid for "classes outside your major" getting rescinded/no longer approved. The place is small but expensive, so this was odd because there aren't really irrelevant classes, per se. It's an art college so unless you're begging to take math 5 times over or some shit, everything is still within the subject you're studying. Thank fuck my last day is tomorrow, this looks eerily similar to how the Art Institute went down.
No. 2007113
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I lied on my job interview about having a driver's license. I don't have a DUI or any criminal record and I have a valid ID card.
In the 2nd screening they want me to either go to the office or a virtual interview; I know that going there physically will increase my chances but should I pick virtual just to be safe from license checking?
My job doesn't even require me to operate a car at any point in time either. All of this won't fuck me in the ass at any point right?
No. 2007213
This is just a rant. I work in a warehouse and recently we got a bunch of young hires. Admittedly the work is tedious, demanding, and hard, but we have a few that stick it out the entire shift and appreciate their hard work. Then there are the rest of them. It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. They refuse to work, refuse to help, and refuse to listen. They'll stand there talking the entire time and if they see one of their fellow employees struggling, will either laugh at them or pretend they don't see it. Things that used to run smoothly are getting congested and backed up because no one wants to do anything, and it's putting a lot of stress on the workers who've been here. I don't know why management doesn't do anything about them, but work has been a lot harder since they've arrived. Yesterday was especially infuriating for me because I got put in charge to "train" two of the new hires, a boy and a girl. Technically, the work is simplistic enough. Pick up box, drop box, do it again. Instead they complained the entire time and when they weren't doing that they were flirting, refused to help at any point, and just kind of watched me work instead. The boy was especially nasty, making snide comments about me saying how he dislikes girls who "aren't feminine." While the girl acted as if she couldn't pick up a box and that I should do it instead. I told them gender has nothing to do with working hard and if you feel that way, maybe you should find another job instead of working here. Unfortunately, our job kind of hires anyone so I'm surrounded by the lowest reaches of society. I'm admittedly only here because I fucked up in my 20s and it was the only place hiring with a decent amount of money. I reported both of them and since they've formed their little groups now, I may end up being public enemy number one, but I've been working this job for months with no problems until these new hires showed up threatening to fuck that all up. I just want to work my job and get my degree finished. At least I'm in college and this job is a means to an end. I made sure to study in something that will ensure I get a job out of college (medical field), so hopefully, I never end up in this position again. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of weight and my body looks really toned and nice. I was surprised looking in the mirror one morning.
No. 2008730
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I work as a part time library associate, while working on my masters in library/information science. My goal is to focus in archives or whatever else lets me stay in the back away from the public and work with history. Well, our small library got a big grant to expand our local archives and create more local history initiatives. That includes a new full time job position all about that, as well as assisting people with digitizing photos or old media formats. The requirements are a masters OR ample experience with working with that stuff. I'm halfway done with my degree, and have helped with small things in the archives off and on already.
The only thing that terrifies me is that it may require me to be social. Like community outreach, planning programs, talking to stakeholders, etc. I'm an introvert, so that may be difficult to get over. Also, I'm a part time worker/part time student right now so if I got it my personal time would be sliced in half. But more hours=more money and all. Plus benefits. I can't really lose by applying. If I don't get it, it'll be status quo. If I do, I'd just have to get out of my comfort zone and be slightly richer for it.
No. 2009290
>>2008758>>2008730omg fellow mls nonnies! my advice is to write your master thesis about something you want to work with and make sure to get as much experience as possible. if you're unable to get a part time job i suggest volunteer work, student conferences etc. you should totally apply for jobs that seem interesting even though they're out of your comfort zone. if it turns out that you hate the job, changing to a more suitable one will be much more manageable as you've gained relevant work experience.
i completed my degree a couple of years ago and in my experience there are way more opportunities with a mls than one is aware of. as a student i was fortunate enough to work as a media archivist and then a library assistant at a uni library. after i graduated i worked full time as a research librarian, but after a uear switched to a corporate archivist job where i work with information & records management. i'm actually pretty outgoing and loved the social aspect of being a librarian kek, but the corp. archivist job pays so much better. the difference is huge, like a 2000€ yearly salary difference.
No. 2009497
>>2008758>>2009290Original MLS nonna here. My degree plan includes information science as well. It applies to so many fields besides just libraries because information is everywhere, so I'm not worried about it being too narrow. It's certainly more helpful for getting a job than my bachelor's in history.
I'm going to apply. It's definitely the closest to my preferred career path and it's not something that comes up often. Plus, I already work at this library so I literally know everyone, the layout, and most of the processes. I have a good relationship with the librarians so I'm sure if I need support I can go to them.
No. 2009605
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i can tell my boss really really really wants me to volunteer for overtime. i'll get paid for it (one of the benefits of being hourly), but i'm not at all keen and i'm also very firm on getting out of the office at 5:00 pm. this friday i had a stroke of luck and managed to solve an issue they were having for years, apparently, in 30 minutes and i don't mean to imply i'm a super genius but these are all boomers who didn't understand how xml worked and also, apparently, could not googlefu a solution as i did kek and my boss was like "oh cool…what are you doing this weekend? maybe we could [do more work on this together even though you've fixed it rather than just take an hour or two on monday which is more than possible]?" and i just told her my ride was here and i really had to go
she's an excellent boss btw, far better than my last 3 bosses, but a boss is a boss and it's all about turning profit. thanks for reading my blog
No. 2010004
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Nonnas, is UX still worth learning? I feel interest towards UX writing, but I believe it would be better to get a good grasp of the whole thing before choosing something to specialize into, right?
I'd like to leave customer service once I finish my degree later this year, but my brain is in a constant cycle between the UX field and copywriting (some aspects of it also interest me) and it's hard to decide when I don't know anyone who has knowledge in those areas.
It also doesn't help I'm an anxious mess and very afraid of investing time and money into courses and ending up regretting my choices. Thanks in advance!
No. 2010099
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I think I'm getting burnout from my job. It kinda sucks because it felt like my first not-retail-wageslave full time job with coworkers who I get along really well with. I was even able to do a modified schedule to fit in college classes, which would have never worked at my old job. A few people I like have left or retired so it's not as amazing as when I first started, and I'm currently doing work for three different positions because of people on maternity leave…it's mentally exhausting. The work/college grind is taking its toll. I'll have the summer off but I'm really torn about leaving or not because I never had such a good work experience up until the last two months.
No. 2011635
>>2005718yup there it is. If you continue in the non-profit sector, you'll see a pattern. It sucks, but it's the only way most non-profits are able to actually help a lot of people, because someone is profiting off of it.
>>2010099Maybe it will get better after summer, assuming they hire some people and those on leave will be back?
>>2007333Unfortunately, company loyalty went out the door when the company began treating workers like expendable cattle. Fuck em. Take care of yourself, because no one else will.
No. 2012629
>>2011772This may have changed since I was in aus but isn’t full time more secure then casual, as in if you’re casual they can fire you with no warning?
>>2012577“I’m happier in the corporate world”, doesn’t really need more explanation, “it’s a better fit” “it suits my lifestyle more” “it was always the direction I saw myself taking” “turns out I’m good at it” “it was the work available when I moved/had a near death experience/finished my last assignment and I really love it so I’d like to continue” “it’s more lucrative” “more advancement opportunity”.
No. 2015297
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I have an interview coming up for a role I've been waiting on for months, and I'm anxious about not getting it, as I've pretty much put everything else aside for it.
It will consist of your basic "are you a psycho" interview and a competency based assessment, so now I'm just revising and searching for tips on potential questions and how to appear more professional.
>>2014076Good luck, I truly do hope you will pass it and be able to tackle anything that comes your way!
No. 2016459
>>2016337Whether or not this is low stress depends entirely on your management and the warehouse. It could be backbreaking and stressful and potentially not even pay that much. I guess she wouldn't interact with customers though.
>>2016316Just an idea but if you live in a city talk to your mailperson about becoming a CCA, they can tell you if the routes involve walking and if the management is terrible. I would not call it low stress to someone who does it as a career, but it can be a real clock-in-clock-out get your steps in type of job and might be less stressful if you're not in it for the long haul. If your city doesn't have walking routes don't do it for exercise, you'll just be driving and lifting heavy packages.
No. 2016698
>>2004648Are you Canadian? I live close to the epicenter of the international student diploma mill problem. I'm an ex-neet student that hasn't worked since 2021, I feel so screwed. I figured immigrants are less likely to take liqour/weed store jobs because their parents tend to disapprove of drug use, but I guess they apply to that shit anyway.
Fuck
No. 2018181
>>2018061I know but it's only now that I realize there's a middle ground between "unemployed artist" and "24/7 workdays and unbearable amounts of stress". When I started my studies I sure didn't, my childhood was unstable so I was possessed into working towards the job that had an 100% employment rate in my country. Now I'm no longer (as much) mentally ill and I'm realizing I was just a traumatized and immature young adult making impulsive decisions and this is my life now.
>>2018149That actually sounds quite nice nonna. I also want to work somewhere small and quiet just dealing with day to day life like stupid parking tickets or a pothole in the road that needs to be filled. One of my family members is a small town judge in Latin America but she deals with awful drug trafficking cases every day even working in family law. I just can't handle any sort of stress, I'm not a confrontational personal at all and I worry so much about every decision I take.
>>2018143Is the pressure coming from your family? Is this a hereditary business thing? If so, maybe it will suck for you in the beginning but afterwards you can get by so well on just nepotism that it's worth having the degree just for that. My dream is to pass the bar and then fuck off and do whatever I want, I'm just afraid I'll kill myself before I reach that point/have no idea if it's actually achievable. I just need financial security really bad.
No. 2018339
>>2018334>What do you even do with that much moneyAfford life. I'm actually not in an expensive area compared to the coasts.
>burgers have to pay 20k out of pocket if they get into a medical accidentOff topic but no we don't; that's what insurance is for. Wish this meme would die kek. I've lived in Europe and medical care there is shit compared to America. You get what you pay for.
No. 2018343
>>2018334It's not just accidents, us burgers write our gross salaries but every month you get a chunk taken out for health insurance (which often doesn't cover well, so if you have actual health issues you often add another chunk of money to the cost. Like I pay $80-300 a month for allergy treatments.) Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of living. You NEED a car, so add a car payment for most people plus gas – our gas is cheaper but we also drive more on avg.
Food is pricy so add that, rent is often $1500-3000 depending, plus your electricity, water, internet, phone (internet in particular is often a local monopoly and can have nasty prices/get randomly jacked up or they do stuff like force cable bundles.) You need a chunk taken out for social security (retirement), other retirement funds, local (state, sometimes city and neighborhood association) and federal taxes as well. Most salaries like that also needed a college degree so add loan payments of $100-500.
This is all napkin math obvs but I hope that helps illustrate how it can evaporate fast.
>>2018339I had good insurance in college and I had to pay $5k for an emergency visit like 10 years ago. My friends thought I was having a heart attack, took 4 hours for them to see me and I didn't even recieve any kind of meds, scans or treatment. My friend's birth like 4 years ago (with insurance) still cost her like $20k out of pocket. She had complications and needed an emergency c section plus hospital stay but it was still appalling.
No. 2018352
>>2018343This is not the thread for this. It's expensive to live anywhere right now. Gas is cheap cheap cheap in America compared to Europe. 30 bucks to fill up a tank vs 150 in Sweden.
>Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of livingI just said in my previous post I live in the middle of America. It's not HCOL.
No. 2024278
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Should I take another call center job and look for something better in the meantime?
It's like there are no fucking jobs anywhere - it's either waitressing or they require you to have a phd/10 years of experience and no one wants to actually train you. I've been looking for 3 months now and it's the same shit over and over.
I have the chance to bag this call centre job, but I know how shit they are and my last one made me want to kill myself. What's worse is that the training is on site, meaning I have to travel by public transport for almost 2 hours to get there, the training is 8 hours and then additional almost 2 hours to get home. All for MAYBE 1k€. After a month or two I'd be able to wfh but spending 12 hours somewhere knowing I won't even be able to eat pisses me off so fucking much and of course by the time I get home I won't be able to do even basic chores. Everyone keeps pushing me to accept the job but I'm so tired of working at dead end places for shit pay while also being too retarded to actually gain any new skill/education etc that could land me in a better job opportunity.
No. 2024747
>>2024701Obviously I meant to reply to
>>2024454. for fuck's sake.
No. 2026077
>>2024701Nta but like
>I acknowledge I’m in a fortunate financial situation though.You answered your own question. You need money and/or parents or a partner to fall back on.
I too went back to school in my mid twenties because I chose wrong and it caused a massive financial set back (and a general delay in personal development honestly).
No. 2028136
>>2025168fuck…
nonnie this was me for the last 6 months. when I finally quit that micromanagement bullshit job hellhole I felt a sense of relief I hadn't felt since leaving high school. I hope your new job is so much better!
No. 2028668
I went through 3 different grueling jobs over the course of several years where my supervisors all told me I was incompetent, slow working, and a terrible communicator, no matter how hard I tried and how hard I worked myself to the bone. It totally destroyed my confidence in myself– I had graduated with a 4.0 and had thought I was a competent and responsible person, but the way my managers characterized me, one after the other, made me rethink all of that. One is bad luck for getting a bad manager, two is getting a little weird, and three means it's definitely my fault, right?
Well, last year I landed the easiest job I have ever done in my life through sheer luck. I hardly have to do anything at all, and literally everyone around me and all of my many supervisors kiss my feet and tell me I am the best ever, a perfect specimen, the best they've ever seen, just for sending some emails or taking basic notes. It is complete whiplash, but I am loving it. I'm a contractor right now and despite the place where I'm contracting taking an out of the blue 35% budget cut and basically being in "necessities only" mode where they're cutting things left and right, all of my supervisors have banded together to hire me on permanently and a good rate. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to wake up and this will have all been a dream. I think the universe must have sensed after I quit my 3rd horrific job that I was serious when I started thinking I might just kill myself if my next job was just as bad.
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I have an assessment centre coming up and I'm bricking it. I'm autistic as fuck and struggle to deal with the group dynamics inherent in these things, and I'm worried that my teammates will all be irritating 20-somethings who will judge everything about me. Please reassure me that I'm just being a retard and will smash it (or failing that… please share your advice)
No. 2029131
>>2028763I would follow up on Monday and send another email asking if he'd like you to sign the contract. Or today, if it's not too late where you are. That's a long time for you not to get a reply, but I think there were various holidays in Europe and the US during the past couple weeks.
>>2028926I don't know about this, sounds like UK stuff. I was managed by a bunch of awkward males in the UK so we never did anything social at all as a team except have lunch a couple times. What kind of activities will you have to do?
>>2028914I'm this anon and I sent my application. Got a received reply from the system so I'm glad for that small comfort. omg please just let me get this position because it will make a lot of things easier for me and I will be able to look for a permanent job while doing this one.
No. 2029258
>>2029244holy cow, what sort of job is this, are you going to be experimented on? I think you'll be ok. I would try to think of a couple topics you feel comfortable using for small talk as needed. Group activities often lack an "active listener" so maybe you can be the person who is keeping track of what everyone is saying and the different perspectives? But I have no idea what they are going to observe you doing, lol. I'm so curious, is it for sales or an office job or… is it like one of those summer jobs for charity?
Sorry i'm going through some UK bureaucracy atm and the bureaucratic / work language used is so convoluted or jargony, I never know if anything said to me is serious or not. Safeguarding, signposting, advocacy, coercive control, etc. it all sounds v serious
No. 2029415
>>2029258UK anon here again, sorry you have to deal with our nonsense bureaucracy (trust me when I say that none of us 'locals' understand it either!!) It's largely corporatespeak terms for basic law and order stuff.
This is basically a job interview, so I'm going to try and research well beforehand! I hate this stupid process but it's de facto for most good grad jobs so what can ya do? It's an entry level Finance program, should be for 3 years while I sit some exams. Hopefully it'll get me started in something that's not as soul crushing as admin (no shade, I just hated my previous jobs because of constant boredom!)
No. 2030315
>>2005397idk what country in europe you're in but it's definitely illegal in some places eg france.
>>2029332report him lmao
No. 2030986
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i'm so sad, anons. i've landed a good job with a cushy pay and not much stress and lots of free time because i live in walking distance. i'm basically employed by the government itself and i have tons of networking opportunities, people are incredibly nice when they hear who i work for, my boss is great, and i just really enjoy my job.
but my coworkers are pieces of shit. namely my direct coworker with whom i share an office and the only male coworker in the other office. the moid is a shitstirrer and hates another woman who works in the office space (we are 4 separate offices using the same office space but working for 4 mostly separate bosses) to the point of bullying her. he yells at her when he has to do anything for her (which is part of his job), hides her packages, and talks shit about her constantly. he can't even say hello to her. the female coworker is double my age and has narcissistic tendencies. she constantly berates me and criticizes every little thing that i do. when she's in a bad mood she'll suddenly decide that something she praised me for is bad actually and will give me shit for it. she also throws tantrums whenever i try to put up boundaries because her behavior is unacceptable and unprofessional. i admit that i am not perfect and i have a tendency to get annoyed easily. she brought this up with my boss and he told me to relax a bit, but he also told my female coworker to not be so annoying in return.
things went well since that conversation with our boss a month ago. until the moid coworker decided that me getting along with the coworker he hates is unacceptable and conjured some lie about me ditching work in favor of talking to that coworker. both of them called me out during our team meeting but i didn't let this fly and defended myself and told them to cut this shit out. i also called out the lies which made him very flustered. my female coworker then brought up the fact that i said i don't want to spend time with her in private and that this hurt her feelings. i told her that she can't force me to be friends with her but that i want to keep things professional between us. and that i had felt that things were going well the past few weeks but once again she's doing something that makes me dislike her even more. i basically told them that they can't control my private life and my friendships.
a few days later i went to an event and both of them were there. i greeted them and both of them ignored me even when i stood right in front of them. that's when i realized i can't work there anymore. they're just too childish and petty and downright evil. i have a long weekend off and instead of enjoying it i've been crying on and off all evening. i just don't want to go to work on monday and be put on trial again for the crime of being friends with someone both of them hate for no reason at all. the bullying is childish and stupid but i'm so sad that i have to leave to protect myself because i really liked this job. i thought i had finally found my forever job and now i have to start searching again when finding work is so hard right now. before this job i was on the hunt for over a year while sticking with a miserable job that i hated in a city that i hated even more.
i know there will always be shitty people at every job but this level of evil has got to be a one time thing…
No. 2032099
>>2030301unfortunalty not when i left my old job i handed back the work laptop it would be on there
it would be my word against his
and him winning makes them look good so they wouldnt want it exposed
No. 2033438
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Job interview went well.
>only one morning shift 7am-3pm
>M-F only
>travel expenses paid
>worked already nearby so I know the area
However, the pay is absolute shit. It's minimum wage. I'd also we surrounded by disabled and mentally ill elderly people. They said to only take the job if I'm serious about it, but the pay is off putting, I can deal with everything else. I hate this shit so much oh my god
No. 2033564
i started a new job 2 months ago and a guy who had been there for years just resigned because management was constantly pissed over him trying to behave like a manager. liars like this guy are always controversial people in their circles because they get some people "on their side" by manipulating them while the ones who know they're always bullshitting don't like them. i am not happy he left when our office is understaffed but i'm also glad he left because his true nature sounds awful and i don't appreciate that he tried to manipulate me too.
>anon i'm afraid they're going to compare you to the new girl
i said okay? there's nothing i can do about that and it's something people can't help but do. and they likely aren't going to do that in front of me
>calmly tells me i should wear my uniform more professionally, we had an actual chill conversation about it and he told management he "let me have it"??? they were pissed at him anyway and don't even care about my uniform and said to completely disregard anything he says.
i bet this fuck thought he had my number and could make me cry or something lol then found out i am not the kind of person i can come off as because i can be really quiet and meek when in a new place. i'm not a bitch or a baby, i am really chill and can take criticism very easily. he even pretended that other people were complaining about my uniform too lmao and i said thanks for having the balls to tell me to my face, i didn't know it was an issue. i am absolutely sure he wanted to get off on making the new girl cry or something to "prove" i can't handle the job.
>"i'm trying to help you succeed anon, there are people here who don't want you to succeed because they enjoy feeling like no one else can do their job"
bro i am fairly certain THAT PERSON IS YOU lmfao. i said to him "you have to understand that since i'm new i have to take all the comments people make like that with a grain of salt, not in a personal way but because people tell me different things". now that i know more of the story (other coworkers brought it up to me that he bitched that my jacket is oversized and they both said they do not give a fuck at all and told him they don't care).
funny how women are accused of being dramatic in the workspace when for me it's been the opposite. most women at my job are based and chill, the men are crybabies that likely feel emasculated working a public service job that requires fervent emotional stability, and is also primarily women in the office. and i bet their male friends all make more than them and they seethe about it and take it out on women who genuinely wanted to work this job as it's a unique and interesting field. i'm salty the guy who trained me barely acknowledges me when he comes in too, i wonder if it was (non-management) males all along who get off on feeling that young college graduate women simply can't do their job because when we show we can they feel their balls shrink and they're mad they don't make as much as their engineer bro friends. suck it up cunt, some of us actually wanted to enter this field and help families and provide a meaningful service, we all know we aren't going to be millionaires. men are such babies (except one guy there who is super chill and loves the job).
No. 2033708
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I feel stuck. I got a useless degree and have been working in paperpusher admin jobs. I want to study something more marketable but I just cannot force myself to it. I started a software testing course some time ago, but just cannot wrap my head around it. I feel like the only things my brain could manage to master are completely unmarketable bullshit humanities subjects (art history, library studies, illustration, etc). Ah, the classic 'do I want to starve but be happy or suffer but have money?' dilemma
No. 2035204
Long, sorry. My company threw me into an unprofessional situation and it's been hard to deal with while playing "professional" about it.
My manager manipulated me into handling an out-of-state account after the prior manager there quit without notice in order to avoid being fired. The other nepotism manager at my level wasn't volunteering, so I agreed to go after my boss teased a good performance evaluation aka a raise–which is not unfounded since it is an open fact I have the most expertise and competence behind my boss for our region. My name is known in our company. He often talks about me as a replacement once he retires. Anyways, I thought I would be helping out the account for a week at most, but now it's been going on almost a month and I realize that they never gave me a definitive timeline of going home before. Yet now my boss is saying it's until I hire and train the new manager which they are still screening for. Fortunately, I have a great team at home–who were my hires that I trained–to hold down the accounts back at base which I am also expected to remotely manage. But I digress.
Nonetheless, it's very obvious why prior manager was going to be fired:
>rampant timecard theft, people just clocking in and out from their cars while going home during their service job shift
>child labor
>manager was never onsite
>did not order approved supplies/barely ordered anything for employees
>when manager was onsite he'd spend all his time playing games like osrs on his laptop (found his herb skill notes scrawled on the back of an equipment manual) while pretending to be busy
>he even pulled this with me when I came down to train his team on separate occasions and acted like he didn't have to know or participate in what I was teaching like a proper mongomoid
>client dangling their multi-million dollar contract in my face while politely advising me that our company has not fulfilled contract scope since we started
>client literally telling me they are aware of the timecard thieves and implying the reason they do not fire us and hire another contractor is due to the inconvenience..so they are expecting me to fix it
>and a corporate walkthrough and several client inspections due the next week after he quit leaving me with only the weekend to recover an account site with a crew giving me the runaround cause they liked getting paid to not work
Somehow I survived the inspections and walkthrough, but only because I have been onsite every day to show a good faith effort to improve things. This translated to 12-16hr days my first week arriving because there are multiple buildings, 1st/2nd/3rd shifts, and weekends. Emergency supply runs, employees and client hiding supplies or stealing supplies. People fucking with me in general, fielding all of the pent-up grievances from employees which was just smoke and mirrors in hindsight because they could distract and not work while venting towards me. Handling all of this while being unfamiliar with the account myself and learning as I went along (no notes from prior moid manager and a disorganized office, nothing set up), and me just only being one person while I couldn't even trust these site supervisors and employees who are treating me like a monster since I'm in town cause they fucked up.
Oh, and emphasis on the majority of these employees being hot pissed at me for asking them to do their jobs. They have gotten away with the timecard theft for so long that my asking them to report to work on time and perform something in their scope feels like literal oppression to them. Why does my company not want to terminate for the theft? Cause it's less of an HR headache for them if they can just blame the prior manager and let me be the sacrificial lamb to catch the worst offenders myself if it means we don't have to mass fire & hire. The problem is with how busy I am just trying to get the site functional and organized, I don't have the hours to spare to be chasing after 40+ people and writing disciplinary reports! Most of the employees cannot even larp as good while the boss is in town because they're emboldened shits cause of what they have gotten away with.
They took the HR numbers, from the employee information posters I hung up for them when I arrived, and are trying to frame me to get me removed or fired from site which lmaooooooo will never happen even if I was being literal Hitler.
A shame because I'm actually a pretty chill manager being that I used to be an employee like they are with my only hard stops being literal theft and abuse lol fuck me.
They shit on the prior manager for not doing anything for them. Except when it suits their narrative, they paint him as an innocent babu manager who never got no help when they want to keep the unofficial shit he supposedly promised them, like nonsensical schedules and times off.
Now they wanna shit on me because I am being involved for them and proving that it is possible to get things done without being spoonfed. That it is possible to be fair and that policies exist to enforce that culture. It does mean I am onsite a lot and that I want to know where the teams are because…I am the manager.
Of course they hate me. Some of them aren't even subtle. One was baiting saying the N word about her coworkers in front of me hoping I would repeat it or agree cause she was secretly recording me. The same one is actively asking everyone who reports to her shift to walk off or quit to…punish me by leaving a job that none of them actually performed minimally thus would make no manner of difference at this point?
A grown ass man got pissed at me for writing him up cause I caught him bringing his little boy to work to do his job for him. Same man then cussed me out and fucking cried when I only asked him to work on one floor a night in a giant building where a normal employee could get through several…he is the floor technician.
God I hope they quit cause I would rather hire and train new folks than deal with these assholes and chase them with writeups.
Even the ex manager, who mysteriously could not be contacted after he quit, was within five minutes blowing up my personal cell phone with abuses after he heard I was "talking shit." All I did was ask his mom to come to work–don't ask me how his mother was allowed to report to her manager son but you see the corruption here–and she got mad at me when I insisted she report because her son having given her permission to only work two days a week when the site was in such deliquency thanks to him was not going to fly. I got boymom-screamed at for that one but at least it gave me what I needed to remove that cunt from site and to get retard to drop his mask once and for all. Hate how everyone waves that he is a "28 year old kid" in my face as if I am some overexperienced hag at 32 who should be more patient towards a thief and a liar.
Maybe if I were a manager with a penis my observations would be taken more seriously and be shown more respect. Maybe people would do backflips and kiss my ass, instead of being upset that I am a young female telling them what to do because I ate massive shit to earn where I am now.
So I am done shedding tears over this account and its people. My boss even reassured me that even if we lost the account it's not like my company would fire me so I should not worry so much.
He's right. That's why I am telling them I am returning home after this week.
No. 2035210
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>>2033438Hell no you can make more working gig economy apps than minimum wage or at least work somewhere way easier
No. 2035281
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>>2028756I got an interview, nonas! Your kind thoughts worked! Think more kind thoughts for tomorrow, please. Now I'm scared again, ofc.
No. 2036339
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> finally land job after 8+ months of searching and being unemployed
> a few bucks less than my old job but fully WFH
> during final interview process get a reachout from company I applied to half a year ago
> dream job, dream company, amazing pay
> get offer from initial company and say yes because literally no choice I am broke
> able to push back start date a bit to continue interviewing with dream job
> get asked to do final interview
> same day that I start first job
I have no idea how I'm gonna make this work anons lol, this would happen after almost a year of searching with barely any bites. I'm so grateful to have any job at all after so long and I can't afford to fuck up and lose it, but I can't miss this interview. This other position would be genuinely life changing if I got it. Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little early. It won't be the best impression on my first day, but I don't think I have any other option.
No. 2036346
>>2036339>Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little earlyNO. NO NO NO. Never
ever use excuses that will let your bosses offer a side-solution. I had a shitty boss in the past who actually blamed ME for my laptop inexplicably dying (long story short, it permanently died, I had to text the company CEO to let him know what had happened, my boss suggested I go to a fucking internet cafe, we don't even have those where I am). Always use an excuse that not only is unavoidable, but makes you seem like a good, dedicated worker. In other words, health issue. Tell them you woke up with a migraine but you took migraine meds, so you'll be okay in an hour or so (and this will also give you the excuse to take it a bit easy).
No. 2036867
Interview over. It was difficult. I can't say what, but they tested a specialized skill. I prepared as much as one can for having something random put in front of you. I hate making mistakes in front of people judging me. That said, I still don't believe anyone even in the broader area I am in, or their broader field, can do that perfectly or even well on the spot. Only a handful of seasoned experts could, and they aren't in the pool of applicants. Once I was halfway through, I got more used to it and could do it faster with fewer problems. I'm not used to doing this "out loud" either. It's not really something you speak out loud. (Sorry I can't be specific nonas, before I die, whenever it is, I'll come back and dox myself, but not today)
But I can only lie here and think about my mistakes now. There was virtually no small talk, the interview was only about this skill, more or less. (I knew it would include testing this thing.) I said why I wanted the position and my background, and asked a few questions. The more I think, the more I wish I weren't so fucking awkward.
damn I really need a new job right now though. And who else is even qualified to do it?? It's three moids, they might have some guy earmarked for the position already I guess.
No. 2038134
>>2037860Personally, I'd be really worried about working around all those chemicals. Maybe I am just paranoid and everyone there is fine, though. Or is it a place that sends the clothes somewhere else to be cleaned?
Otherwise it sounds like a typical customer service job. You might have to deal with some difficult people, are you able to do that? Now I sort of hope you will take it and make a thread about all the weird and wonderful stuff that gets cleaned there.
No. 2038142
>>2038134Yeah they send them somewhere else, and its also seperated, a front area for admin and the back is all for pressing I believe.
Yeah I can handle a difficult customer, I just have problems learning things quickly and retaining info. But I'm hoping it will be okay…
And lol yes I'll do that, their clients are actually news stations and luxury brands so it should be interesting.